What is the difference in effects? I heard that both aren't much different. Food, music, scents, and sex are reportedly very good on 2C-B, is this the same thing with 2C-E? I have read that 2C-E is more visual. Which is more euphoric? Which is more of a mind expander? And finally, which do you prefer?
Think of it this way: 2c-b is to ecstasy as 2c-e is to acid. 2C-E is an amazing mind blowing trip, with intense visuals. Not as much mind-fuck as acid. 2C-B is a party drug, very friendly, very forgiving. Nobody really has bad trips on it. Cool visuals as well and you can think completely clearly (although it still feels trippy).
I agree with uplink if we are talking about normal doses, however for me, 2cb can be very visual and cause considerable mind fuck at high enough doses. Which is my favorite? At first it was 2c-b. I had a lot of fun with it for the first few trips... but once the newness of the drug wore off, it got kinda boring. Its still fun, dont get me wrong, but I rarely take it. Now my favorite is 2c-e. I feel there is more to learn from it. The trip can be more difficult but because of this, the trip is more rewarding.
i liked 2ce alot better than 2cb. 2ci was fun as well, probab;y better than 2cb also. i want to try 2CC and 2CD as i hear they are worth a try
2cc and 2cd are both wonderful but for different reasons. I think they are my two favorites of the 2c-x's. 2cc is kinda relaxing with very little bodyload. 2cd is more stimulating and reminds me a little of 2ce but with much shorter duration. Only downside to 2cc and 2cd is the dose required. For example, you might find yourself taking 80mg for a moderatly high dose of 2cd.
2C-E's desirable effects i like more than 2C-B's, but 2C-B still has a great trip and 2C-E usually brings with it severe GI discomfort, and for me lasts throughout the entire experience. 2C-B would be my favorite because you can take it and just enjoy the drugs wonderful primary effects, without the pains in the gut the whole time. that said 2C-E IS more visual (though 2C-B has some nice patterning) and what i've experienced is amazing. it really is more like acid. 2C-B is a more shallow experience, possibly useful in psychotherapy, though. but it really is pretty damn pleasant and fun, and it comes with no unpleasant bodyload (in my experience)
Out of my 3 experience with 2c-e and 2 experiences with 2c-b I found 2c-e more visual and more enjoyable
doses? for 2C-E i wasnt where i wanted to be until 20+mg, but the stomach upset increased with increased dosage for 2C-B, i think my pills were around 20mg, and no stomach upset at all. like i said before though, for me it was more of a fun drug and less of a truly psychedelic drug....sorta like ecstacy, sort of like mild mushrooms....very stimulating, slightly visual, very happy and trippy, great for staying up and having conversations with another person, smoking pot, etc. 2C-E....take a heavy dose and you're out there....for a while....but it was incredible. i just couldnt tolerate having such a pain in the stomach all the time.
i want to try 2CC and 2CD as i hear they are worth a try[/QUOTE]At the risk of sounding like a doctor or something, be careful with 2C-C! I've mentioned this before but one day I eyeballed a certain amount of 2cc and ended up finishing the work day totally fucked, totally out of my head, seeing things, sick, chills and fever, you name it. I will NEVER eyeball anything again! At that time I think, in retrospect, I had taken about 100mg of it. Way too much. I was out of it for a week.
I've only tried 2ce, and I doubt 2cb could even compare. 2ce is extremely psychedelic. I would compare it to acid, as far as visuals go.
I tried both 2ce & 2cb, and my farvorit is defiantly 2ce, especielly when i combine the 2ce with other drugs !!! Anyhow the bodyload can be terible (Not that much when you sniff it) from times to times on 2ce, but still my farvorit 2c
for anyone who has lots of experience with the 2C- series, what do you think of 2C-I and 2C-T-2? which is more like a classic psychedelic? how would you describe them? which has the least body load? etc... my only points of refence in terms of other 2C-s are 2C-B and 2C-E, as well as a number of other psychedelics
I havent tried 2C-I, but I imagine it has less bodyload than 2C-T-2. Ive tried both 2C-B/E and T-2 is on par with 2C-E visually, witrh more mindfuck for me. I personally dont find 2C-T-2 to be too nauseating, though some friends vomit every time. T-2 would be more like a classic psychedelic than 2C-I. Take that with a grain of salt though as Ive never tried I. 2C-T-2 is one of the best 2C-s imo, T-7 will be even better I reckon
that sounds like pretty much what i imagined to be the case. i sort of imagine 2C-I to be more like 2C-B than a classic psychedelic... so you'd say 2C-T-2 has less body load in general than 2C-E? i know people that vomit every time they take acid, and i've never once vomitted from acid...if people are suggesting that 2C-T-2 is less upsetting to the stomach than 2C-E (which actually DID make me vomit EVERY time, and with a dull ache in the stomach for the rest of the trip) than i'd be very, very interested in 2C-T-2...i found 2C-E to be one of my favorite psychedelics in terms of primary effects, incredibly visual and decently mentally strange...if 2C-T-2 is on par in those regards, with less body load, it may be the perfect choice for the kind of drug i'm looking for (apart from DMT or DPT freebase oil) though 4-AcO-DMT sounds amazing, too, though it sounds like it would also be almost exactly like a mushroom trip....still, it would be great to have my hands on something that effects you almost exactly like psilocybin (both are metabolised into psilocin in the body) i'm interested in 2C-T-7, as well, but unfortunately it is schedule I in the US, making it flat out illegal in every respect...up there with heroin and LSD....
Some find 2ct2 to cause vomiting, some don't. Probably if 2ce makes you puke t2 will also, but there is really only one way to be sure. It is more similar to 2ce than to 2cb. 2ci is indeed very similar to 2cb, but longer lasting.
ive only done 2ce, prob over 50 times....i absolutely love it....not as good as acid imo, but damn amazing
Well at the moment Swim is tripping off of 20mg.s of 2C-I Very Euphoric and listenin to keshmir-led zep.. BUt I love 2c-e gr8 visuals just plane fun, but never got to try 2c-b...
2c-i is incredibly euphoric, VERY sensitive to music, make sure you bump to your good tunes, and I compare to cocaine, its got the same feel almost, just more "calming" the visuals, they are'nt even close to 2c-e visuals, but they become more prevailent when your listening to music, its fun.. trust me..