Why did those Russian terrorists keep all of those children hostage? Seriously, why why why? Why is there so much retaliation and violence? I think that human nature is becoming more extreme – on both ends of the spectrum. But why? Why why why? I don’t agree with any of it. Why don’t I agree with any of it? If somebody agrees with a war, why do they agree with that war? If somebody believes it is the right thing to do, why do they think it is the right thing to do? Why should it be the right thing to do? Why shouldn’t it be the right thing to do? Oh my, I do hOpe somebody can answer all these questions. But why should anybody answer all these questions? Sunshine Lily xxx
I think everyone is slowly losing their mind. If punishments would be harsher for crimes things like that would stop.
its all truly disgusting. to think those kids actually had to witness people being blown up - some of them their friends. I feel so sorry for their parents.
get real its human nature were fucked up from the start the death penalty didnt stop the morons who flew the planes into the twin towers
the people doing this view non-muslims as subhuman the nearest thing I can think of is the way nazis thought of jews also they are seeking death. about twenty years ago hezbollah started using suicide bombing in isreal the idea goes back a lot further but it was from then that it seemed to really take off in recent times it isnt that these people are victims or they are desperate they have a agenda there are people that I talk to in the uk that would do this sort of attack certainly there are loads who would support it and their agenda isnt limited to chechnia or isreal they are fighting to spread a religion and they think that these tactics are effective and at the same time give them the oppertunity to become martyrs I would normally have sympathy for example with the palestinians if they were fighting for two seperate states or co-existance but thats not the gameplan of the main groups that are operating today you need to look at the names hezbollah (party of god), islamic jihad , al-asqa martyr brigade and then look in detail at the sort of religous beliefs they have when I see people telling me I should have solidarity with these guys I tell them to look very close at what their core beliefs are they see jihad as being pretty much continous so after isreal or chechnia mujahadeen would move onto places like reconquering spain or the rest of russia and then the rest of the world the reason isreal for example is that important to islamists is mainly because its holy land to christians and jews and they want to show that islam is the most dominant religion on earth although isreal as importance for the three religions the real holy land to islam is saudi arabia this is pretty much the same outlook that caused the destruction of the buddhist statue in afghanistan they want to show the world that islam is on a roll and going to conquer the world I know your a very sensitive soul sunny and these sort of things upset me to what I do is try to understand why people think like this and then try arguing with them using the koran and haddith with some people it works and its a peaceful approach but I dont think you could have talked people out of being nazis, its possible but with islam or any really fundermentalist religion you have brainwashing from children, if you look on the sites they make for people killed doing these sort of attacks you see pictures of little children wearing suicide belts. it may be things are heading for a big war
this is what happens when people stop listening to each other...you have to find other ways of making people pay attention...
how u can find any differance from the cristians and jews in this is beond me i see first hand the way christian aid organisations work its become a christian or we will leave you to die may as well put a gun to there head its the same thing
not giving someone aid is different to going out of your way to shoot them or blowing yourself up in the belief that these actions will get you to heaven I cant say how christians hand out aid Im not a christian but Ive never seen this kind of hatred with christians Ive known who have gone off to be aid workers
how is it not the same when death is inevitable if you look at it in the same way some people look at animals its crueler because your leaving them tosuffer not doing the humane thing and puting them out of there missery
i dont agree with whats happened, but the russian government has caused some pretty big massacres and attacks on chetchen (SP) people, people dont start blowing themselves up, or taking a school hostage for no reason, and i disagree with johnny that people do it on purely religiously motivated beliefs, in desperate times some people will do anything, im not saying thats right or wrong, but in desperate times people will do anything i dont know this, but the rebel woman that blew herself up, didnt just do that easily, i mean who knows, the russian government could have killed her entire familly. what im saying is that people dont blow themselves up for no reason, the chetchens must have been extreamly desperate to do that. its a last resort afterall.
if you look at the british suicide bombers or the sept 11 people they didnt have familys killed or they were not living in nasty circumstances motivations are different with different people I remember one women last year who it was believed had been found out in adultery by her husband and she then blew herself up I suppose if she hadnt her husband would have killed her I think its wrong to think these are just people in desperate circumstances if that was the case they could just put bombs off like the IRA but they choose to become bombs themselves lots of them leave wills and in many cases websites and they are well worth looking at its hard for people that havnt been lets say involved in a cult to understand the world view it isnt lets say chechnia or isreal its a test of faith but non-muslims can understand it if they look at some of our own home grown suicide cults I mean we have had groups prepared to commit mass suicide "solar temple jim jones ect ect ect I think with the russian school people they wernt looking for negotiations and its likely that they lured the russians to come in to clear the bodys so they could just kill more non-muslims
322 people were killed, 155 of whom were children about 700 wounded at a cost of 26 terrorists we are going to be having a convention soon in the uk of Al-Muhajiroun as sept11 that great victory against unbelief is coming round again http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP77804 The London daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat reported that the extremist Islamic movement Al-Muhajiroun had announced a convention in London, titled “The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You’re with the Muslims or with the Infidels,” to mark the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks. The organization had planned a similar anniversary event a year ago, called “The Magnificent 19 [Suicide Attackers],” but had cancelled it at the last minute. The following is a summary of the report: Al-Muhajiroun leader Omar Bakri, a Syrian residing in London, told the paper by phone that the convention would feature Al-Qa’ida “surprises,” with the screening of a never-before-shown video. He said that the convention will focus on “the anniversary of the division of the world into two great camps — the camp of faith and the camp of unbelief,” and would take place September 11, 2004 from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Bakri added: “On this day, we will talk about the ramifications of these [9/11] operations for Afghanistan and Iraq... We want the world to remember this operation ... that lifted the head of the [Muslim] nation.” Bakri called 9/11 “a cry of Jihad against unbelief and oppression,” and said that the aim of remembering it is to “revive the commandment of Jihad among the youth of the [Muslim] nation.” Bakri said that the convention will also feature a lecture about the Islamic religious roots of “slaughtering the infidels,” that is, beheading foreigners in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and that there will be films by Al-Qa’ida, the Tawhid and Jihad organization, and the Brigades of the Two Holy Places in the Arabian Peninsula, and that there will also be a film on the most recent operations in Chechnya. He added that one of the speeches, by Abu Mus’ab Al-Zarqawi, known to be Al-Qa’ida’s military commander in Iraq, will be translated. Another lecture, he said, would be dedicated to the memory of three Al-Qa’ida commanders: Abd Al-’Aziz Al-Muqren (Abu Hajer), killed in June 2004 by Saudi security forces; his predecessor Yousef Al-Ayyiri, killed in June 2003 in a clash with Saudi security forces, and Abu Hafs Al-Masri, a top Al-Qa’ida military officer, killed in the U.S. attack on Kandahar in late 2001. According to Bakri, the anticipated criticism of Al-Muhajiroun for the organization’s insistence on memorializing 9/11 will be “a simple sacrifice in comparison with what we must actually do — that is, support the Jihad led by bin Laden.”
The world is just a mess, a total mess. This russian thing is totally unacceptable whatever they want to negotiate, if people would learn to talk rather than kill the world would be a greater place. I hate to say this because they are strong words, but I fear that Johnny is right, I think we are gonna have a war on our hands soon enough, not just in the gulf, its just going to break out everywhere...and with all Religeons/Leaders telling their followers different stories its just gonna make people confused, and when humans are confused we just kill and kill and kill.
I just read that some of the hostages have said that the hijackers raped some of the older children .....this would be perfectly legal if they are fighting jihad and they are sure that they are not pregnant they would be classed as war booty I suppose they couldnt wait for the heavenly virgins they have been promised
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3628432.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3616868.stm Some lady on a religous programe said that we should look at the 'terrorists' as people , not as butchers or inhuman ????? if you see them as people maybe understanding them is easier... well i don't think so myself..
Hmm, while I'm not a christian aid worked I spent a lot of time with a lot of christian aid workers at the greenbelt festival. Now I can't speak for all of them by any means but the people I met had no interest in converting anyone, just helping them. While I do agree that religion can prevent one person from helping another I don't think the christian aid workers would refuse to help people if they didn't convert.
I look at them as people but at the same time monsters I dont think the two things dont go together people have good and bad potential
two interesting articles they both come from translations of al-batter guide to kidnapping http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40298 targets interesting how they grade targets in other religions or beliefs http://www.siteinstitute.org/exposing.asp?id=229
