AIDS medicine (the cocktail) is ...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by The End Complete, Sep 3, 2004.

  1. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    you know what. it wasnt peter dombrowski.. it was peter something but anyways dombrowski was the author of one of my textbooks. man, im an idiot.
     
  2. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Ya know guys...Sometimes, posts here dont merit logical scientific explanation, and instead should be ridiculed like the vile wasteful irrelevant bullshit they are.

    I let this be article A of why anyone who believes this is a fucking moron.

    Article B

    Article C, and I hope the government tracks you down and slaps the stupid outta you.
     
  3. openmind

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    the aids virus test is so in acurate that its the best of three system like tossing a coin
    and yes the medication does deplete yoyr imune system and cause a hiv positive person to infact get aids
    but the virus does exist and the prostitutes in india became sick without any medical intervention as do the wifes of the men who visited the prostitutes
    those wifes can be in remote villages and never have seen a doctor

    man made virus now theres no dought about that

    and released into population that are considered to need controling
    but thats just man playing god
     
  4. interval_illusion

    interval_illusion Deceased

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    you meant india but what about the u.s.? what people here that die from it and dont take meds. for it???
     
  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It wouldn't surprise me. They poison the vaccines, so it wouldn't surprise me if the pharmaceutical companies are putting stuff into the medicine, too.

    I refuse to take ANY of these pharmaceutical drugs unless I have to, which is rarely. And I certainly wouldn't take any of the mind-altering/mind-controlling psych meds these government-funded companies are pushing on us every night at dinnertime.

    Hello people, do know what the flouride they put in our drinking water is? An industrial biproduct. It's poison!

    None of this shit is new, or surprising for that matter.

    My advice is not to believe everything you read, but to be skeptical about everything you read.

    I don't have an official opinion about the AIDS cocktail, I haven't researched it enough. But if I had AIDS I would definitely accept treatment.
     
  6. interval_illusion

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    So, you're saying, Rat... that you think they taint the drugs as they taint the vaccines but if you were infected you would defiantly accept treatment?
     
  7. openmind

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    ive not been to the u.s
     
  8. interval_illusion

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    the test or the virus? sorry..im confused now. little much happy herbie.
     
  9. openmind

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    would you accept treatment
     
  10. openmind

    openmind Member

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    the test ?
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's hard to say as AIDS is much different from other diseases, in terms of treatment especially.

    If I had AIDS, I would most likely take the cocktail regardless of what might be in it. This is a life or death situation. If I didn't die from the poisons, I'd die from the AIDS. And many of the people who have taken these cocktails HAVE indeed shown enormous amounts of improvement.

    HOWEVER, for other diseases, people never even think of the holistic approach. They are too indoctrinated into this system of thought, where you must take potentially dangerous pharmaceutical drugs or be dependent on the healthcare system in order to cure yourself. Some people will rush right out to the doctor for the slightest sniffle or body ache, expected to be prescribed something. People are completely dependent on this system.

    All I am saying is that I avoid taking these pharmaceutical drugs at all costs, because we really don't know what's in them or what their long-term effects might be.
     
  12. interval_illusion

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    Well I get kinda emotional cause a best friend of mine had AIDS bad in when she was 19. she died two years later. she had read about holistic ways and heard the conspiracy theories...and thought that aids didnt even need treatment.. she got a zapper and did meditation and the food thing, all that. she died. i just got mad abotu the people that fed her bullshit to make money.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, I don't even think there is a holistic treatment for AIDS, which is why I clearly stated I would opt to take the cocktail if I was infected with AIDS.

    Not all holistic treatment is bullshit and pushed by kooks who don't know what they are talking about, either (like that guy on Seinfeld, when George was seeking alternative treatment for his tonsillitis).

    I am not talking about MAJOR diseases, either, but rather what we see advertised for around dinnertime every night on television (another reason not to watch it).

    There ARE holistics that will treat acid reflux. There ARE holistics that will aid in anxiety. There ARE holistics that will help 60 yr. old men get it up.

    People have been so conditioned into thinking they need these corporations for their health and well-being, which is actually to the contrary.

    All I meant is that Americans are too dependent on pharmaceuticals to treat every minor ailment they are afflicted with, mostly because it's being pushed on us in a way that is just.... wrong.
     
  14. interval_illusion

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    I completly agree with you.

    We all should know that the drug companies sell the drugs for half price in Canada because the politcians here get large sums of meony for playing along. The manjor corporations and the power elite control this country.

    And of course, all the minor ailemtns they show on tv.... such bullshit. It's all advertisments backed by money and supporetd by the government. It's ridiculous and the whole topic can make me rather naeusaous at times.
     
  15. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    i've heard about that type of stuff before, check out totse.com, they have a bunch of AIDS conspiracy stuff.
    I agree with pressed_rat about people being too dependant on pharmaceuticals, i rarely take any kind of medicine, plus i think taking them too much can do much damage to your body...
    if you always have medicines to take care of diseases, then your immune system cannot grow stronger.
     
  16. Lodog

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    You know they say aids came from the monkeys in Africa. I want to know who the hell was fuckin the monkeys?
     
  17. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Rat, I agree that anti-biotics are over prescribed, and I dont know if the descion that allowed pharmeceutical companies to market directly to consumers was positive, maybe not, and there can be some natural cures for common ailments.

    but most hollistic medecine is bullshit, and most of these people are taking advantage of people, I dont really care if somebodys telling a 40 year old executve that monkey paw is going to help him with sexual inadequacy, but to tell people that these methods are going to cure cancer, and making them avoid competent medical advice, is just evil.

    Of course theres a hollistic that helps acid reflux, its milk of magnesia, and thats what in almost all acid reflux medecations. And pots not a bad anti-anxiety holistic, but it was made illegal in the 30's to appease the cotton lobby, I haven't heard of any viable hollistic cure for impotence.

    The difference between those natural cures, and the holistic industry, is that medical science understands the function of natural cures, and the holistic indusrty promises robust, unsuported claims, and blames all problems on 'toxins'... if your seeking medical advice from anyone who uses the word 'toxin', run away, because they have no idea what they are talking about. There is no such thing as a 'toxin'.

    The long term effects of these medecines undergo millions of dollars of federal testing, and the effects of hollistic cures undergo no testing... remeber ephedra?
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What are you basing all this on?

    Impotence and erectile dysfunction are two different things.

    You are way off the mark. Prove it that ALL the holistic community does is promise robust, unsupported claims! I think you've been watching too many infomercials.

    Well, many of these herbs have been used for millions of years. Most of the newer pharmaceuticals have been used for only a couple years at the most, so you don't know what long-term effects they may have.

    I haven't heard of many people dying from complications due to natural medicine.

    I am not saying that holistic medicine is the answer for all ailments, but it certainly is for many of the more common ones that people run right out to their doctor for, like mindless idiots.
     
  19. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    That most hollistic remedies don't work? I'm basing this on thousands of years of applied medical science, we've been using natural remedies since the beging of time, and many of them had absoultly no effect whatsoever, its obvious that the effects of natural remedies have in almost all cases been either proven to be benificial, or proven otherwise, and if they have been proven benificial, they can be refined to become more effective. Hollistic medecine is a step back in medecine.

    no they aren't, erectile dysfunction (ED), and impotence are the exact same problem, as proof, consult.
    http://www.impotence.org/FAQ/index.asp#12

    I try to avoid infomercials, but there are herbal remedies all over tv, so that point seems moot, if you actually want me to reference the impracicality of the majority of holistics, it'll have to wait, because I dont feel like searching right now, and i'm asking you to reference me some benifits from a source thats not trying to sell their cure.

    Sapiens have only been around a couple hundred thousand years, and the understanding of medecine was at best extremlly limited, as late as the 1900's many ailments were blamed on satan, so I wouldn't put much stock in the natural cures of the dark ages.

    You haven't heard of many complications due to natural medications because most of them are big fat placebos... you dont hear from many deaths ssociated from sugar pills because they dont do anything.

    I'm gong to say that about 90% of the benifits of holistic medecine are psychosomatic... if you think you're getting better, you really can get better, but that doesn't mean theres any value in the placebo.

    And I think you can get over most problems, or ignore them without any negative health consequences, that may be cheaper, and if you think you can tough it out, fine, but you shouldn't have to put up with less than quacks stuffing you full of expensive innactive herbs.

    I'm glad you understand that holistics isn't a cure for everything, and I agree that a quick fix run to the doctor might not be the most effective way to deal with every aillment, but whats wrong with just taking some time, and resting, which will do much more for any problem than holistics.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Erectile Dysfunction is when you cannot get it up. Impotence is when you shoot blanks, meaning you have an inferior sperm count and can't get a woman pregnant.

    Millions of years, thousands of years.... you get my point. They've been used for a long time is what I am saying.

    And you're not an expert on holistics, just as I am not an expert on them.

    Your claims are backed up with no evidence, only opinion. Find some documented proof that says most holistic remedies don't work.

    I know that whenever I have a cold and take echinacea, it usually seems to work, as it does for most people.

    Are these common herbs just a gimmick, too?
     
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