What ya think of gas$$$$$$$$

When I park my van and toss the needed tools for the day in the trunk of my neon ya know its bad.

My cam change in the van helped towing, ect. but still is about 7.5 mpg and 36 gallons x 3.40 for premium= PARKED.

Hemi quad cab 8.5 mile in town 14 towing....better but not good.

If I went to the races as planned this weekend id of spent over 400 bucks in fuel and never left the state.......

It would never happen but If everyone in the usa parked the cars for a week and let things come to a hault....would this change anything.

 

i dont pay attention to fuel prices.. of course i dont pay for fuel...

 

Well when I keep gas receipts and have averaged easily over 250 a week for the past few weeeks in gas I got to switch up. Esp when its my project and I dont get paid.

Since my vans made to live in im gooa start staying on the job site two or 3 days at a time, I can run my ac all the time so its doable.

 

i only have to fill up my gas tank once every 4-6 weeks. so i don't freak out over the prices much. no, i don't own a hybrid. so far as i can tell, gas has always been expensive to me, even when it was under a dollar a gallon, just because i was only making $4.50/hr and having to drive too damned far to school every day.

 

You're right-- it would never happen. The lack of a viable alternative is part of what keeps prices high... that and the government's sanctioning what is in effect price fixing by big oil.

To underscore how little governments care about the little guy; our Governor proposed rolling back by twenty-five cents the state tax per gallon of gasoline. This was voted down and a legislator who was against it was quoted as saying the consumer is just going to have to conserve. On the conservation end of it-- maybe bringing the price to ten dollars a gallon wouldn't be a bad idea- so what if it brings the whole economy to its knees as long as big oilnk... uhh I mean oil gets its money.

The population will never act as one.. it makes it easier to government and big business to fuck us over.

 

i hope to getting my first van by the end of the summer, and i'm starting out veggie. i'm just not going to bother with gas at all.

fry oil is your friend.


http://www.greasecar.com

 

well if i did pay for fuel it would run about 300 a week.

i must admit, some of these sub contractors with there penis trucks pullin there trailers loaded with equipment gotta be takin a beating,,although it is a right off.

i saw in the paper a local towing company is now charging a fuel sur charge..

try that one with your builder.. pffft

 

i think your in for a rude awakening.

used veggie oil is becoming hard to find, and many places are charging for it now.

with each passing day the used veggie oil market is becoming more lucrative

 

Lots of talk in the mainstream world on alt fuels including veggie fuel as well as many others, people should think ahead and pat. some of these new ideas, but still the gov would take it away in the end.

I was ready but said fuck it for the weekend.......

 

I think the days of "EVERYONE" doing anything together but bitching is long gone!


We still pay pretty low amounts compared to other countries, we are still deeply spoiled too so there is room to tighten the ol belts but will we?

I have no room to talk, I complain but really I have 2 homes, couple cars, 4 computers, 3 TV's, 3 DVD players, tons of kitchen gadgets, over 1000 DVD'd, and so on. I live alone in a 3 bedroom 2 bath home and have another 2 bedroom 2 bath home for what? I oder delivery alot and tip them well enough that they enjoy my orders.

Yes I waste alot and am slowly trying to wean myself off the damn habit of doing so.

 

where are people charging for it? i haven't heard of that anywhere, certainly not around here. there's someone in Ithaca who charges a small fee for filtered waste veg oil, but it's still free to collect and filter yourself.

 

Sadly you are 100% correct.

 

i don't think they ever arrived.

 

http://www.bulkoil.com/scripts/oiltype_item.asp?p=127


an the already filtered shit

http://austin.craigslist.org/car/338634318.html


an its becoming more common by the day.

there are several companies starting up veggie fuel production on a large scale and buying it,, thats why people are begining to sell it more rather than give it away..

 

thankfully that hasn't hit here yet. i already know where i'm getting the oil for my van, several places. at any rate, with the amount of driving i may have to do for my business, it's still cheaper than gas. i honsetly don't believe that veg cars are going to go really "mainstream" because it's too much work for the average consumer. it certainly isn't a long-term solution: waste oil is recycled of course, but as i'm sure you know growing the rapeseed or whatever to burn straight in cars or process into bipdiesel takes up almost as much energy as it offers.

don't worry, i don't see vegetable oil fuels as the magic, easy, "free" solution. thankfully, waste vegetable oil is still free here, though, and for here and now, it's the better option.

nonetheless, where i am, starting out veg oil is going to be cheaper and greener than starting out buring fossil fuel, even if it's only a temporary stop-gap until something better comes along. the loan officer at the co-op credit union told me i might even be able to get a micro-loan or business grant to cover the conversion!

 

Alot of used vegi oil is bought up by cosmetic companies to make lipstick, blush ect. Its filtered trucked by tanker then refiltered and added to faces all across the world!

 

Again, that's another thing I haven't heard of happening here in Rochester, Ithaca, or the Catskills at all.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if there were people charging for WVO for fuel in the Catskills, or if they weren't doing it already some people started soon, especially with Woodstock going zero-emissions and all. I think for it to be any kind of an economic threat to veg car drivers, however, there'd have to be more veggie cars in an area than there were restaraunts to meet the demand, which hasn't even happened yet in Woodstock or Ithaca.

 

Its like anything good, it gets exploited till it just cost too much!


Broken candy= local ice cream shop finds a use then along comes DQ and wella a shortage enough that candy companies had to make broken candy to fill the need and would sell it for more.

Used motor oil for heating, now try to find some for yourself.

Sawdust from mills for heat and for gardens, damn they sell it buy the truck loads to places to make pellet fuels and such.

There is still methane I guess, but hell they might tax our butts for letting it go, lol

 

it's way too god darned expensive.