Morning Glory vs. Salvia

Hi,

I was just wondering if anybody could tell me the difference between a Morning Glory and a Salvia experience.

I was hoping that MG would be quite a bit different.

 

Yes, morning glories are ENTIRELY different than salvia.

Look here: http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml

Also, check out Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds: http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw.shtml

 

Yeah, LSA is a lot milder than salvia, with totally unrelated characteristics.

You need to eat a fuckin lot though, I'd go with the HBW seeds since you dont have to eat NEARLY as much. Stomach pain/cramps are a bitch though.

Thats why I've only used MG twice. Its been compared to LSD, but LSD is MUCH better, and MUCH stronger in my experience.

 

Yeah LSA is more of a mental and physical thing, with little to no visuals to speak of. There are slight tracers and tactile hallucinations, maybe some auditory shit, but nothing much. Some people love it though.

 

not to smart for a 44 year old.

 

Who the hell are you to say?

It's spelled "too smart" for your info.

Thanks for the tips up there.

I've heard from a few people that the after-effects of an MG experience were very good, uplifting.

 

It has nothing to do with him being smart...

He probably just never looked into morning glory, relax.

 

The difference between the two trips?

Morning Glories feel like acid. Except they make you really tired (heavy body-load) and nauseated. One of my favorite things about Morning Glories and HBWR is that they are pretty much the ONLY psychedelic you can fall asleep on. That makes them so awesome. The trip feels well "trippy". It's sort of your classic acid trip, except probably milder unless you plan on doing an extraction. HBWR peaks in about 3 hours... it's slower than acid. Objects get lifelike properties, and you get this weird melting feeling (obviously it's more complicated than that).

Salvia feels metallic, and things take on bizarre properties for no reason. You might think you are a certain object... my friend thought the sky was a book. I thought I was in an elf castle. I didn't really get any "hallucinations" per se. I just got the feeling that I was in an elf castle. It's very strange. Many people don't like it... it's too "jarring" (for lack of a better word) for my taste. Hard to explain. I feel too out of control.

Anyways, they're totally different.

 

Thanks.

If I try them, I want to avoid another "Salvia experience."

I've read some people say that it makes you feel like you've been poisoned, even if an extraction method was used.

I was kind of hoping to avoid that kind of negative feeling.

I was hoping it would be like LSD-lite.

 

morning glory = psychedelic
salvia = a physical high

 

^....smoke 40X salvia extrct out of a bong if you dont think salvia is a psychedelic my friend...you wanna talk about a trip, and a horrifically intense one at that...

 

WTF?

That statement couldnt be more wrong...

You must be smoking shitty extract or leaf my friend.

 

60 X purple its tthe best i never have seen anything just a psychical high... but i guess it was always mixed with weed so it may be that

 

Salvia is insanely physical and incredibly lose-your-mind trippy. There isn't really a way to prepare yourself at all. It's a pretty hard-core trip in my opinion. Reality completely drops out and you're faced with the weirdest things that could ever happen to a human being. Becoming objects over thousands of years, becoming an animal, talking to inanimate objects and having them tell you you're insane. Like the damn shovel in my garage. So freaky.

Honestly I find Salvia to just be too intense, although it's VERY interesting to me. So much, in fact, that I continue to use it now and then. A low dose just gets me a really shitty feeling physical high though. Salvia is very different for everyone though. I'd suggest having a good amount of psychedelics experience before flying off into Lady Salvia's world.

I've heard a lot of people compare LSA to a very mild acid trip, but more physical. Currently I'm looking to (read: growing Morning Glories) getting some LSA to test out myself.

 

Both of my morning glory trips were HORRIBLE, but I think I just got some bad seeds. For me, they felt very similar to acid, but were much more internal. The visuals were there, but it was almost like I didn't care about them. My only out-of-body experience has been on morning glory, as well as my only bad trips. There is an AMAZING body high when coming up, but then the rest of the trip is pretty internal and crappy (at least for me). If you get good seeds it might be better.

Salvia, on the other hand, is COMPLETELY different. When you smoke it, you have the desire to smoke more and more and more. This occurs until it "hits" you like a freaking brick. Then you just sink (and I do mean sink) into whatever you are sitting on, and fly to another universe. It feels like whatever is behind you is pulling you back, and then there is almost universally some sort of "ripping" of your world. Basically, everyone I've talked to and all the experiences I've read report having their world ripped apart into some sort of alternate reality, which usually has some sort of blackness associated with it. One of my trips involved zebra-people rolling my reality out like some sort of carpet, and then I flew into a "zebra world" where they were all walking around and going about their business on some floating platform in space. Another experience I had was much more mild. Basically, my world turned into a side-scrolling world of bottlecaps with crazy psychedelic colors.

As you can see, they are very, very different. Perhaps if you didn't smoke enough salvia it would be much more mild, but who knows.

Oh, the other thing is that morning glory can last up to 8-12 hours, while salvia usually only lasts for about 5-15 minutes.

 

Heh, I have to agree that Salvia is the weirdest drug I have ever come across and probably will remain in that first place. It's the coolest, yet the freakiest thing ever. I also feel that it feels like you're being pulled into another dimension, and that your current dimension is being ripped apart by the seams. You can';t so much see this as feel it, and it feels horrible to know that everything and everyone you knew is gone forever and you're clinically insane. That's how it often feels for me. I often forget I've done Salvia or just am way too preoccupied to remember.

 

I think it seems so intense mostly because it's just a completely different type of trip. It's just so foreign to us. For me, even acid seems somewhat familiar. I'm not entirely sure why. Hell, even DMT (well, ayhuascua) just seemed like an absurd extension of acid. Salvia, though, is just another thing entirely. I've also noticed that I can remember my salvia experiences MUCH better than my acid, morning glory, and ayhuascua experiences. That really interests me.

 

I totally agree with much of what was said about Salvia.

The feeling of being pulled backwards into something else is something I feel every time, even on low doses, but to a much lesser extent.

And the "alternate reality" or "alternative dimension" thing is just mind-blowing.

The reality of it is indescribable.

 

You know what man there are no similarities on this issue. The MGs are there own thing. You have to take alot to get off but not to much I hear you can get ergot poisoning but i guess thats what gets us off. Salvia is like peaking on shrooms to me. I would think that smoking divinorum while on MGs would be the way to go. Try grinding your seeds in a coffe grinder, soaking them for 30min then straining through a reusable coffee filter, mixing with OJ and then smoke divinorum while tripping on maybe 3 hits of MGS. tell me how that goes. e!

 

Its clearly not '60X' if you are getting no visuals whatsoever.

You are likely getting sold maybe 5x at 60x price... I've had 20x a whole shitload of times, and it makes you TRIP the fuck out. Like, alternate reality kind of trip, not just pretty colors...

So if you're paying for 60X and not getting any visuals I'd say its safe to assume its not 60x. I've never even heard of "60x purple..." I think your gettin ripped man.