I realize that synthesis and extraction of various psychoactive chemicals aren't easy. I'm not asking for recipes, but wondering where a good place to start is. I'm thinking about trying to extract LSA or something like that. I am a sophomore in high school that has taken chemistry and biology. Over the next 2 years I will be taking anatomy and physiology, AP Chem, and AP Bio. (AP classes are college level but taught in high school for advanced students.) Another question I have is, what level of education is required for serious synthesis type doings. Like mainly LSD, mescaline, MDMA, that type of stuff. Is a BA with a minor in Chem or organic chem good enough for an understanding, or a major in it, a masters degree, or a ph D. I know a degree isn't required, but what would give most of the background needed and allow this to be not too difficult. Also, would Chem, biochem, or organic chem be more helpful? thanks.
Update to above post: My first experience will pry be making an extract from salvia and using it to fortify salvia.
In order to extract chemicals from herbs, you need to use some strong acid and some strong base. Sulfuric acid is usually an ace for an acid, and ammonium hydroxide (household ammonia) is a good as a base. For more acids and bases, see this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acids_and_bases
Thanks LJDV, I understand this much at least. I was wondering more what kind of education would be good for this kind of work, and what a good place to start was.
Well if you're planning to go to college you might want to take an organic chemistry course. Or even if your high school offers it (most don't)
I was thinking about dual majoring with psychology and either chem or arganic chem. If I did this how difficult would the whole LSD thing be. I know it is supposed to be hard, but everyone says a degree is where to start.
special government lisences are needed to obtain obscure chemicals to produce substances like lsd, mdma etc. It will take years of training and you'll only be much older when You have the knoledge, chemicals and thousands of dollars worth of equipment to make these drugs. As i dont have any knoledge of the USA school system i can only tell you that you will need science- but im sure you already knew that. I can recomend a starting point thou: Methcathinone is the easiest drug to cook up if you can obtain psudeoephedrine which is possible. Research, hours of research is what is needed. Acid/ base extactions are also very simple such as extracting DMT and Mescaline from legal plants. obscure chemicals are incresingly being controllled, but set your mind to it and im sure you will acheive something.
hey man good luck on that chem stuff the revolution needs you. I never went that far but I know alot more than i did then when i was in high school. I have spent the last 2 years experimenting with home drug recipies. 1st grind your mgs/hbwrs in coffe grinders, soak seeds in lime juice for 30min, filter through reusable coffee filter and mix lime juice with OJ for the LSA effect. 2nd juice the skins of trichcerious using only the skin and inner dark green flesh. drink juice or evaporate liquid and powder the cactus resin. 3rd use a 1 part lemon juice / 2 part distiled water solution to extract your ayhauasca herbs. powder the herbs in a coffee grinder use only enough solution in a non aliminum pot to cover the herb bulk. bring to a rapid boil. pour contents through a baking sifter to filter the potion from the herb bulk. repaet 2 more times for a total of three boils. mix all the potion together. do the same for 3 grams of syrian rue but drink 30 min prior to a potion made of 20gs red caapi 20gs mimosa hostillis. Make sure you drink only half the potion first cuz your gonna puke. this intial purge will clear the stomach of any absorbants that will hinder further dmt metabolization. after the first purge get up and smoke or just drink the next hit. if you go higher than twenty break it up into three purges. Im sure you could evaporate the liquid and get resin that you could air dry and capsulize. be careful cuz DMT is heat/light sensitive. e!
I'm also a sophmore in high school and unless your parents are cool with what your doing or you live by yourself or somethingl ike that than your gonna be limited in what you can do. However, just look into shit and acouple things that can definetly be extracted relatively easily are mescaline, DMT, LSA etc... Just look into it and read several different extraction methods. Make sure that the one your reading is not outdated and that your using many many safety procedures. Really just be careful, im extracting LSA right now and it basically involved soaking seed powder in water, evaporating, putting leftover gunk in alcohol and thats it. However, mescaline and DMT are much more complex and time consuming. Those I can't do at the moment because theres no way I could manage it without my parents finding out. What I would really recommend is just getting a basic understanding of how acid/base and other simple extraction processes work. From that point you can simply look up a general recipe, understand the concepts and work from there.
Wait, you're extracting LSA by evaporating water? from what I understand, LSA is polar, and water dissolves polar things. The nausea bits are non-polar, and so will remain. And my parents are divorced, so I can go to the house with one not home. And my van has a burner in it. I'm not too worried about hiding it.
Thats nice about the houses, I would recommend doing a mescaline or DMT extraction in that case. And I'm pretty sure that there are two chemicals in morning glory seeds that cause nausea. One is actually pretty bad for you but is only slightly soulble in water, the other just causes nausea but is soulble in water since water is polar. However, it is not soulble in ethanol hense the alcohol part. Then I filter the alcohol and just drink the proper amount. If you want to try it just PM me and ill explain it in more detail
Why through water the first time? what does it take off? I will be using http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction2.shtml
yea, apparently it gets rid of something in the seed that is bad for you. The idea is that water gets rid of something and alcohol gets rid of something else. Im high at the moment and don't reallyremember how i t works. But actualyl, it the link waht does the non-polar solvent do?
hmmm, Idon't remember; Ill have to look into it more tomorow But if I were you I would'nt even bother with LSA and go straight to Mescaline or DMT That one I understand completely, but don't have the time to do it
