Well speaking of welfare.....

Unemplyment seriously sounds like a good set up. My unlce and aunt quit there job because they were forced to move. Combined I think they get something like 90k from unemplyment a year

 

Well, most people who are on welfare do work, and they pay taxes as well. they'll continue paying taxes even after they get off of it. So basically, they're paying for their own shit.

 

People should stop doing this.

 

That is the most shoots and ladders meets candydrop lane interpratation of the welfare system I have ever heard. Please don't expect me to debate on this level.

 

They're just getting their money back. That's why it's called "unemploment insurance".

 

Exactly what I'm getting right now. Not that I haven't been trying my ass off to find work as well as taking classes, but when the only jobs that I am offered pay half of what I used to make, I'm going to hold out until the better money position comes along. It's not the governments money, they were just holding it for me. Insurance

 

It's not any different than unemployment check you got. You pay a tax and lose your job, you get an unemployment check while your not working. You work while you're on assistance, you're basically getting back what the gov takes out of your check, and will continue to take out of your check until the day you die.

Just because you'd rather be an asshole and believe people on welfare are bums doesn't make it true.

Besides, I don't expect you to debate, just bitch.

 

Bums? How many years did you spend outdoors again?

 

well, he spent years and years "homeless" but he did very well.... or something. i dunno. whatever.

 

that's pretty much what i was going to say...

 

im a full time student who lives alone so i get Youth Allowance and Rent assistance. Not sure what the american equivalent of those would be. But it's enough for me to live on. Not planning any trips to Hawaii in the near future tho.... But i figure it's ok. Everyone here gets it and I don't have parents that can help me out so I take what i can get. Eh.

 

Yes, they're paying for me to leave school and go to college. The peoples' tax dollars at work right there.

 

Back when I was 19 or 20 I needed some help. I was living with my parents at the time. I had tons of medical bills. I felt horrible my Dad was getting a bill sometimes 2-3x a week. I went to the welfare office and asked for assistance. I only needed medical assistance till I found a job that supplied it. They helped me for a few months. Once I landed a good job I terminated the assistance. I'd rather have it go to people who need it.

My Mr. Nut has a great job, good insurance. Everything is working out well for us HOWEVER if anything ever happened to him I would need help. I don't have many skills other than being a Mother. The kind of work that I would find would only kill me in the long run to support my family.
I probably would need assistance again.

 

I remember during the Regan era when things were so great that the homeless people actually ENJOYED the freedom of being homeless. That's what the popular spin was. Ah, those halcyon days of yore...

I'm not on welfare or homeless, never have been. In my life I've recieved only one check for unemployment. The only government assistance I ever got was in the form of guaranteed student loans. But I don't begrudge the money I payed in taxes to those who need it. I'd rather see my money go to bums than to pay for weapons of mass destruction (which apparently, we are researching and building on a large scale, once again).

 

So why don't you take your worthless ass to night school and learn something?


Is the world too bright and scary outside your kitchen and baby room?





I understand I'm being rude and I apologize, but I feel it's the only way I can get my point across.




"We make her paint her face and dance..."

 

Yes, you are being rude and thanks for the apology. My worthless ass has other meanings right now. I am a stay at home mother of 2. I am working my worthless ass to raise them right so hopefully they don't make such rude comments as this one.

There are much nicer ways to get your point across. Try it sometime, you might get a nicer response.

 

when i was 8-9 years old my father left my mother alone with us kids. there were 2 teenaged boys and one daughter. we had moved to tennessee, far from everyone and everything we knew in SoCal. then he just left. he left no money for bills or for food, and my mother's job, and the job my brother brad got couldn't support us, though he did make sure i had lunch money, even if he had to go without. when it turned out that we were woefully unprepared for winter, which turned out to be their worst in a long time, deep drifts of snow and freezing winds that had us out of school more often than in it, mom gave in and went to the welfare office. for a fiercely independent and hard-working woman, this was a terrible thing to have to do. but for 3 months she collected the checks, then my stepfather stepped in. we moved back to SoCal with him, and then some SERIOUS shit started, but that's a whole other story.

 

Oh, peanuts... did Bacchus (gods, I hate that he uses that name) have a point? Why do you bother reading his bile. Just put him on 'ignore.' He doesn't deserve your attention, and he certainly isn't worth the effort. You can't help this one peanuts. I know it's your nature, but we all have our limitations.

 

Actually I feel I am the one that should be apologizing. Bacchus, your entitled to your opinion. Maybe I do seem like my ass is worthless to some but it really isn't. I am a very good mother to our boys. I say that because it is true.

I was just making a point about welfare and the system, the way I feel about it. I didn't think someone would slam me. Sometimes I even have trouble controling my tongue or in this case my typing fingers.

Bacchus, I am sorry for coming off so harsh.

 

I truly am regretful about this.

I honestly am not capable of finding some soft way of expressing myself. But I really do want to have this conversation with you.

Why do you think it's OK to just make babies and let your future to someone else's hands?

This is VERY unprogressive in my eyes.

To me you're perpetuating the steroeotype of a woman who can't exist without her man.