Standardized/Non-Standardized Salvia Extracts

Hey, I will order some Salvia divinorum and I wanted to know what's the difference between Standardized and Non-Standardized extracts? Non-Standardized is cheaper as I see. But is it smokable? And another question... Can I smoke it using a simple pipe for tobbaco? Something like http://www.foucault.info/documents/img/notapipe/Magritte-pipe.jpg

 

non standardized means the potency is by volume of leaf extracted onto the leaves you are buying, so 6X would mean that for every gram of leaf you buy there should be the salvanorin from 6 grams of leaf. However, often a little is lost in the process. Standardized means that they make it not by volume, but by taking your leaf to a set amount of salvanorin. non-standardized is very smokable, and from my experience at least the more common choice to buy. You can use a pipe, and many people do. Hold the flame on the leaf the whole time you are inhaling. I prefer an ice water bong to a pipe, as the smoke is harsh and hot.

 

non-standardized is inconsistant, making it impossible to measure your dose. you know the average dose of the whole batch but you never know how much in any small measured dose. get standardized so you know how much you are taking.
also, non-standardized may have more gunk in it because it's made more cheaply.

 

standardized is a ripoff. I've bought both and I speak from experience. Salvia was just as good from both sources, nothing was different. Same taste, same effects, same amount used. Standardized is just a way to make more money because people think its better to have a more "pure" amount. Even though the only difference is in the chemicals they use to extract salvinorum from salvia.

 

The difference is how they make it.

Standardized the have extracted pure salvorin and basically spray it on the leaves. The amount is much more exact.

With non-standardized (let's say a 6x) they take 5 grams of salvia leaves, extract and put the extract on a gram of normal leaves.

Non-standardized extractions don't extract the pure salvorin and the salvorin content is much more variable (it's based on leaves, not on pure alkaloids).

High end extracts are standardized.

 

hmm to those with experience;

do standardized and nonstandardized extracts REALLY does not matter enough to pay the gap between the two?
we are ordering our first salvia today (along with many friends' orders) from iamshaman. yes I've been told they are a little expensive but I'm also told that they're to be trusted in delivery issues and quality, so I will, for this first time, ignore the expensiveness.

yet if nonstandardized is by no big deal less potent than the standardized then I will order nonstandardized.

nonstandardized is 3 dolars cheaper per gram (in 6x)
what do you think? urgent help please dears

pm me if you wish so

 

It's up to you. non-standardized isn't weaker, the problem is that it's unevenly distributed. you could smoke the same amount twice and get two different level experiences because you got different amounts of the active ingredient. If you want to know how much you are taking get standardized, if that's not important to you then non-standardized may be good enough.

 

The money gap IS NOT WORTH IT. You aren't paying for them to add or take out chemicals in the product. All you pay for is this magical insurance that you get a better product. Notice on iamshaman that it doesn't say the standardized are more potent, because they aren't. You pay 5-10 extra bucks so they can pay higher prices on the extract they use. It's a ripoff. I have bought both and even the taste wasn't any different. Hell they probably just make one batch and make more money off of one set by selling it as standardized.

 

http://ethnobotany.yage.net/salviax.html
Helps a lot. It's what I used when I grew and extracted.