CHEMTRAILS - Who know's what these are?

Anybody?

I just finally became enligthened as to what these are and I now witness them daily here where I live, amazing.

Anybody else know what these are who maybe knows a little bit more about them wanna give an explanation??? Surely someone else sees them where they live?

 

I think the basic idea is that these are not clouds, or normal contrails that jets leave when their flying.

Contrails do not grow anywhere NEARLY as big as some of those trails are. Nor do that many jets fly over farms just for fun and test runs? Their flying for the purpose of : spraying chemicals. It's really painfully obvious that something corrupt is going on.

I have heard things like it is actually barium they are spraying? I have also heard that it is an attempt to control the weather?






Dennis Kucinich, the only vegan senator whose running for president in the Democratic party, probably the politician with the most common sense who deserves our support more than ever...was the one to introduce the bill to actually combat these.

This is truly truly fascinating to discover, and to witness them daily where I live is even more astounding.

These are obviously not contrails and there is obviously something that some organization is not disclosing information about. Wouldn't the general population know what these actually are if there were not something corrupt going on, and some kind of hidden motive?

The government from what I have read so far has denied the claims everytime they are brought up, saying ridiculous things such as "wind at high altitudes can cause contrails to spread".

I am still new to this and completley amazed and blown away, if anyone knows anything else, please feel free to contribute to this thread

 

Look up in the sky sometime, you will see these. I see them all the time now that I actually look. Actually I see them pretty much daily.

I have heard from a health guru Annie Jubb I listen to on the radio that she seems them frequently in LA.

I asked a friend in Indiana if he had heard of these and he said he sees them daily. I also asked a friend in NJ and he said he sees them daily. This is truly amazing and obviously a thought out, full on type of endeavor that someone is employing.








This is so unbelievable it's ridiculous - here is a video I just found on youtube of a chemtrail activist -

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9Xcf84CFEKQ

 

I see them where I live though not every day and not as severe as your pictures. Usually on a warm sunny day around 5 is when they appear. I figure its timed to as people head home from work for the day and it is also done over my college campus.

It is so painfully obvious when you see a normal contrail disappear within seconds...than you see a chemtrail forming before your very eyes. And stay there for almost an hour! After that, I forget to keep watching. Do they spread out like a blanket? I don't know. I have never seen them as spread out as that last picture.

sometimes the planes are REALLY low in the sky and if I had my digital camera and zoomed in real close, it would make a pretty crazy picture.

Its just sad to see this shit..than look at the kids at my work (I am a teachers aid) and than see the airplanes spreading this shit.

I have only taken one picture, on a fairly cold, but sunny winter afternoon in northern maine.

This is about the extent of it here in Portland. I am really suprised by how severe these other pictures are. I haven't seen that here yet.

 

Well, there are several different applications for these aerosol operations. They are of varying altitude, mixture and purpose. Weather modification plays a big role in this, as they're putting metallic salts into the atmosphere, such as barium and aluminum, which puts the atmosphere into a plasma state that is more conductive to EM pulse energy via HAARP (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program), which is essentially an ionospheric heater that can be used (and is used) to alter and direct weather patterns. It's also shown that the addition of these aerosols aids in trapping in heat, which could also very well play a part in the warming of the earth we are experiencing, which IS a natural process, but is likely being exacerbated by these chemtrails.

Weather modification is just one of the applications for these chemtrails, but there are at least 5-6 more that range from geo-engineering, to surveillance, to biological operations. This is a massive, multi-faceted operation which is going on all across the western world (the NATO countries).

Here is an excellent hour and a half documentary I recommend people check out. It's called Aerosol Crimes, by researcher Clifford Carnicom, who also runs the excellent website and research tool http://www.carnicom.com. The documentary can be viewed in its entirety, for free, on Google video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407&q=Aerosol+Crimes&hl=en

 

hmmm...the day I took that picture..it was gorgeous. Not a cloud in the sky, 70-75 degrees, slight wind (if any) of only about 5 mph. Shortly after the spray which started around 4:30 (30-45 minutes) the sky grew dark (around 5:15), it got a lot windier...and colder, cloudier...

I don't know..heh

can you elaborate on the "surveillance" application you mentioned, in regards to chemtrails?

Thanks for the video.

 

Well, depending on the mixture being sprayed, the temperature does sometimes get colder. I find that with excessive spraying, it tends to either get really warm or really cold. This spraying also occurs most heavily before approaching fronts, so that might have something to do with it as well. However, the evidence shows that, on average, the earth has generally gotten warmer since the beginning of these operations in the mid to late 90s.

As far as the surveillance goes... here is what I got from an article which discussed the findings of a researcher from the UK, Dr. Stephen McKay:

“The second and most secretive project is the United States Navy's, RFMP, Radio Frequency Mission Planner, military program. The RFMP is the system name given to a group of computer programs and one of the supporting, subprograms within the RFMP system is called the VTRPE computer program. VTRPE is an acronym that stands for Variable Terrain Radio Parabolic Equation, It is a computer Radio Frequency propagation program that deals with radio waves and enables the RFMP system to visually see the battlefield terrain in 3 dimensions (3-D) on a television screen. The RFMP system also depends on satellites to feed their images of the battlefield into the RFMP system to be combined with the battlefield picture painted from the ground thus producing 3-D images.”

”By providing an extremely interactive and visual (television type radar screens) environment, the Radio Frequency Mission Planner, RFMP system allows the computer operator to develop familiarity with the "Radio Frequency" environment before a battlefield war mission occurs by playing a variety of "what-if" virtual warfare scenarios on his computer screen. Since all major modes of Radio Frequency propagation are modeled in his computer, (RFMP system), special, sometimes counter- intuitive, cases can be examined in detail and exploited during a warfare battle mission.”

”The VTRPE computer program only worked accurately over water and along coastal areas but not over land masses because the system's radar waves required an atmospheric condition known as "ducting", over land, to operate accurately.”

”The government and military solved the "ducting" problem by releasing an aerosol, a mixture of barium salts into the atmosphere over America. They made an atmospheric RF duct with a base of barium aerosol from aircraft. The chemical and electrical characteristics of the mixture will cause water moisture to stay in clouds. Again, the aerosol sets up an electrical and chemical environment that supports RF ducting for the RFMP / VTRPE warfare system. Fibers with barium may support ducting. The mixture of barium salt aerosol when sprayed in a straight line will also provide a ducting path from point A to point B and will enable high frequency communications along that path, even over the curvature of the earth, in both directions. Enemy high frequency communications can be monitored easier with the straight line A to B ducting medium.”

You can read the entire article HERE

 

Here are some pictures I've taken over the past year or so:

 

WOW.

That is the answer I was looking for Rat. Thank you for that post!!!!

My friend mentioned barium and it definatley seems like a full on operation going on across the country. It's so amazing that their dumping this stuff all over the planet, truly a sign of the times if there ever was one.

I have heard they are not in China though, is that true? Someone told me there not in Hawaii either but I mentioned this to someone else and they said they've seen them there.

And what are the other purposes of the spraying, you said there's 5-6? Do you think one is to make the American people sick by just dropping chemicals all over them to pollute the air furhtur than it is? This would certainly explain the skyrocketing cancer rates in this country.

DO you think they add something to them to make them white so they resemble clouds? I would think chemicals would have different colors?

 

I'm not too sure about any of this, the born sceptic. I have read all the stuff i could find on the subject.

I watch the sky a lot, and the weather patterns. I know for absolute certain that certain weather conditions have huge effects on SOUND waves, so it's not impossible that the trails left by planes could act differently from one day to the next. So, it SEEMS like the "chemtrails" and "contrails" are one and the same, but responding differently to different weather patterns, fronts, air currents, barometric pressure, etc...

Now, you can look at satelite pics of earth and see how, on certain days more than others, an artificial "cloud" gets formed in the areas where there are a lot of main air travel routes. Yes, they do block out the sun.

There is mixed info out there about what the trails consist of, with some saying it's just water vapor and some saying it's "laced" with heavy metals. I got a notion that it's ALL got heavy metals in it. But because of the way the weather patterns are, sometimes it hangs and sometimes it disperses. Whatever it's doing, the end result is that it's polluting the ground... They have taken samples from vegies growing in different localities and discovered several heavy metals IN THE VEGIES... That only gets there thru RAIN. So, whatever they are and whatever the stuff is, it's getting in our food and water supply. And if it can create clouds enough to block out the sun on a sunny day, which I've seen them do, then of course the climate is effected.

And the HAARP thing. Yea, anything is possible. That's a for real thing, up there in Alaska. As far as it being connected to the chemtrails, dunno for real. Could be, or could be they just use stories like that to make folks who question the chemtrails look like fruit loops, so they won't question them too much. That happens too. Well, the reality of the things is bad enough WITHOUT the possibility of the conspiracy part being real too......

 

Very rairly are chemicals sprayed in the sky like that, only in areas of drought to create rain and even then only rarely as they are only mildly effective and very expensive. Jet contrails will broaden out like that due to differences in atmospheric conditions. Some dissipear very quickly and some linger and broaden due to altitude. Most planes with in so many miles of each other( I think its 50 or 100) have to be at different altitudes (Usually at least 1000 feet difference). The contrails form due to condensation of water from the fuel. When hydrocarbons (gas, or jet fule) are burned they not only create CO2 but also H20(water) at those altitudes it freazes and disperses to form contrail clouds, usually the higher the elevation the colder it is so the clouds stick around longer and appear wider.

 

They are reported everywhere except parts of Asia and most of Africa. It's pretty much an ongoing occurance in the western countries signed on to NATO.

Do I think one of the objectives is to make people sick? I have no doubt about this because they are making people sick. Heavy spraying usually coincides with increased upper respiratory ailments and the emergency rooms become flooded with these respiratory problems. The heavy metals are bad enough, but we know they are also including biologicals such as white blood cells, mycoplasmas, and other unknown materials. Heavy spraying also results in unusually high mold counts, even in normally arid environments such as the desert. We know exposure to molds decreases the immunity in people, leaving them more open to infection, and I believe these operations are targeting primarily people with already compromised immune systems, such as the elderly and the chronically ill... or, what people like Henry Kissinger refer to as the "useless eaters."

Well, the spraying often results in a pseudo-cloud cover as the trails spread out to cover the length of the sky. I don't think it's intended this way, that's simply the result of prolonged spraying.... the sky becomes completely clouded over from this activity.

And if you look at the planes through a telescopic lens, you can see the colors as they are spraying which indicate the presense of materials other than water vapor.

Here is the result of the sun passing through a chemtrail-laced cloud:



Here is a picture of a plane dispersing aerosols into the air. Notice these "contrails" are not dependent on the engines of the plane, nor the wings, but actual nozzles underneith the wings:

 

You are thinking of something entirely different. This isn't cloud seeding we're talking about.

I am also well aware of the difference between natural, normal contrails and unnatural, abnormal chemtrails. The two are entirely different and, while it is normal for contrails to sometimes linger in the sky for periods of time, rarely do they last for hours, spreading out until they blanket the entire sky with an artificial cloud ceiling. This is something that was pretty much unheard of 10-15 years ago, which is now occuring on a daily basis all across the world.

 

WOW Pressed Rat, I am impressed.

I am sold on chemtrails 100%, I was before I read any of this really..Just looking up in the sky and seeing this everyday is more proof than I can handle. Then seeing the upclose pics Rat just posted, it seems beyond obvious to me that this is a real phenomena.

I have heard Henry Kissinger's name before, is he apart of the Illuminati or part of the government trying to reduce the population?

 

I saw this thread and was immediately intrigued because I have always wondered about these things but nobody else really was interested when I pointed them out. I have been seeing these since I was a little kid in the early 80's so if this is really some kind of project/experiment/whatever and is not just regular contrails, it has been going on for longer than you guys have been saying in this thread. I'm from northern rural Jersey, and grew up here. I actually have a picture of when I was ~3-4 years old taken outside with several of these chemtrails in the sky in the background. This would have been taken in around '84-'85. I'll try to find it and post it on here.

 

www.borderlands.com/contrails/contrail.htmMaybe this will clear things up.

 

It's not anything I didn't already know. I am well aware of the difference between regular contrails and chemtrails, which are entirely different from harmless vapor trails.

 

Yes, please do post it. These have been seen in the skies well before the late 90s, though the heavy spraying we see now on a regular occurance didn't begin until around '97-98.

 

ok these so called chem trails are a total fabrication of conspiracy buffs
chemtrails are a false name attributed to vapor trails
vapor trails are what happens at the outer most point of a wing as it squeezes the air condencing the water vapor in the air into visible clouds that trail off following the wingtip vortices (turbulant trailes that form at wingtips)
the phenomena ive seen many times in a glider even when pulling a hi g manuever, the increased lift vs drag causes the air flowing under the wing to be far more compressed then the air over the wing
& the water vapor is compressed into a dencer then normal state.. when the air temp & the condenced water wapor are just right these trails form..
any & every plane causes them
thinking its something sinister is just silly
theyve been in the sky as long as planes have

 

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