Apologies to Skip

All I know is that's my new favorite bible verse.

My new van will have the following painted on the rear hatch:

Finally, A Prophecy Fulfilled:​

Matthew X: XXXIV-XXXVI​

 

No... terrorism is using forums for your own agenda aka controlling what people write and even banning people you disagree with... THAT'S terrorism and you're public enemy number 1.

 

I disagree.
Being ignorant and spreading ignorance is like having a disease and spreading it.


First, get cured of your ignorance, then we can talk about who is the "terrorist".

 

With these new restrictions upon what we can say haven't we limited our free speach? That was the beauty of the forums, we could debate and say what we wanted. Sometimes that offended people but that happens every day in every location where people voice their views. If your offended then just don't keep going back to that thread. The thing I loved more then anything about this place is that I had the freedom to say what I want and voice my opinion. Sometimes that included quoting others including the bible, John Lennon, Bob Marly, Ghandi, Lao Tzu, and others. All of these people offended someone at some time. What defines a Christian and even more, a human being, is the ability to forgive and learn from others. Sure sometimes people will personally attack others verbally and physically, we are all guilty of it but we have to move on. To quote another person, "Turn the other cheak". I know who is famous for saying that and many have said it since, not only Jesus but Ghandi as well. Skip, I respectfully and humbly ask you to move your finger back from the ban button just a little. Fingers on the button are bad all around, from nuclear holocost to simply banning people who want to speak their peace. If I'm banned for this then so be it but it will be a blow to free speach.

 

When you get angry or egotistic - just remember Youre a womble and if you need help remembering that heres a vid to help you
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EP7CDvQULXw
BTW you should all get together and have sex - sounds like you all love each other a lot now. Hey does this mean you are now the gay christian society ?

 

hey why did my post get deleted from this thread ????

 

hmmm maybe it never got deleted maybe it never posted pproperly
so anyway I was saying - look guys you dont have to throw your weight at each other and let ego's come into it, everyone should remember they are a womble
look at this it will remind you, you too are just a womble

Come on everyone make some noise and sing along
remember-member-member what a womble womble womble you are
http://youtube.com/watch?v=EP7CDvQULXw

or how about we get a log fire going and sing Cumbaya mi laud

 

Skip,

I've enjoyed reading your hipforums for a long time. It seems to be one of the few places where folks express what they are actually thinking, without the usual self-censorship or political correctness. I will occasionally post when something gets me stirred up, or when I think I might be able to contribute or help, but mostly I'm silent.

Because of the value that I think your forum has, I would like to respectfully ask you to reconsider one particular part of your new rules.

In your post: [thread=232007]New Rules![/thread] you state:

I'm as tired as everyone else of the out-of-control preaching, and your new rule would certainly make sense, except...

Except... that Christianity uses the writings in the bible to define what it holds as true, and what it does not accept. Christianity can not use anyone's feelings or opinions at a particular time to decide what is and is not part of the faith. Feelings and opinions change like the weather.

Christianity is NOT unique in this matter. Judaism is based on the writings in the tanakh and talmud. Islam is based on the revelations of their prophet, as recorded in the quran. Hinduism has a written tradition that puts all other religions to shame, with vedic writings that are over 5000 years old.

I do not see a similar restriction on the use of sacred writings in any of the other religion forums.

You certainly would not expect a lawyer to present a case in court without citing the laws that applied. You also would not expect a professor on Shakespeare to be able to write a scholarly article without ANY quotes from his plays.

I am just as disgusted as you are by some of the ranting that has gone on in here, and I certainly agree with the rule against proselytizing. I would like to see some limits on baseless, hateful, bashing posts. Disagreement, and heated discussion can be good things, but hurling insults or trying to overwhelm those who disagree with you seldom accomplishes anything. But this new rule takes away one of the most important tools for stating a case or defending a position.

Skip, these are clearly your forums, and so you can set up any rules you want to. You can also hate Christianity and Christians as much as you want to. It just seems to me that this one rule goes against the principals of free speech that you claim to support.

Respectfully,

the mighty thor.

 

Skip your wrong, George Bush isn't a christian, he practices ancient canaanite rituals like the Cremation of Care @ Bohemian Grove and all that nonsense freemason/skull and bones bullshit.....but that's improveable and neither here nor there...he runs on the "christian" platform.

Anyway, I look at it like this........if people were spamming Mein Kampf all over the place in support of the holocaust would you feel the same way?? What's the difference........? Tis none.

 

The guy started this thread to make peace with you, and you continue to start fights. That's real mature.

REAL mature.

 

Skip,

I have mostly refrained from posting in the "Christianity" forum before now for several reasons. There are many parts of my life that are beneath contempt for your average church-goer: I'm no saint. Also, I don't see the point in endless flame wars when you are not going to change anyone's mind.

I can understand that your rule is in response to past abuses. I do NOT agree with it, but I understand it.

If you want to punish all Christians alive NOW for the crimes of the PAST, then let me suggest that there is more than enough historical evidence to convict EVERYONE on the planet. I am not aware of ANY groups that would be free of guilt. Right now there are all kinds of horrific atrocities being carried out across the globe in the name of a loving God (and not just by Christians and Muslims!).

I am appalled by the atrocities committed in the name of Christ throughout history, and I am disgusted by those in the present day who profess Christianity (or any religion) as an excuse to spread hatred and carry out unspeakable acts.

I cannot speak for them. I can only speak for myself. There are many people that I owe apologies to, and I am trying to make amends as I can.

I know many people who claim to be Christians who feel the same way. Unfortunately, it is a different group that make all the noise and try to run things.

 

I guess I whould ask this, but is it going to cause a problem when I quote the bible to refute Christian assertions?

Because there's nothing I love more than using their own book to shut fundies down.

 

skip don't want your apologies
he wants your money
talk is cheap