Hey Shithead. Keep posting your negative rants and we'll be sure to avoid Texas. My ex is from there- a good enough reason for me. Texas is full of Bush supporters, rednecks, fireants, killer bees and poisonous snakes, and it is HOTTER than hell in the summer time. I can't imagine a worse place to hang out. If the Gathering is in Texas, expect people to stay away in droves. I know I will be.
if its in texas, I can imagine ALOT of people will stay away..........I know the family i've talked to around here won't go there, including myself. I seriously doubt it will actually be there though......maybe, though, depends on who shows up.
I think all the hate directed at Texas is really sad...we've lived here every winter since Tx Gathering, we've lived here full time for 6 yrs and we love it. Yes it's hot & maybe it isn't the best place for an Annual Gathering...because of the lack of springs, not because the leos will treat folks as crappy as they have been so many othr Gatherings we've talked to folks that will go to Tx & not to Ark, we've talked to folks who will go to Ark & not Tx & we've talked to folks who refuse to go to either state. Does it really change anyone's opinion continue this guessing game? If folks were so opinionated about where they wanted to be then they should have gone to & participated in Vision Council. C
Then why not fear Arkansas as well? At the last Ark Annual, the local sheriff was taking pot shots at hippies. During scouting for '96, the locals were shooting at each other & the Rainbows were in the middle trying to provide safety for the locals' kids. JuJu was at Tx '88 and I can say for sure that he feared for his life more at other Gatherings, like Alabama '93 where the leos were staring at him mighty hard after he'd been filmed by CNN singing a nice little song for Billy Ball...& it was dark when they cornered him in the Enemies of the Forest camp to 'chat' about it... Or maybe MO, where he had a 9mm shoved into his nose by leos(correction, JuJu says between the eyes...) ...TX'88 for a piece of cake for my old man compared to those movies..... C
Your points are all valid, I guess alot of people just associate Texas with evil and negativity due to a plethora of collective bad experiences. I know my bias against Texas comes from a very bad personal experience, i'll never set foot there again, Red got thrown in jail in Austin of all places for vagrancy for a couple months, he wasn't spangin' or nothing, just riding down street on his bike. Personally i'm not too hype on going to Arkansas or Oklahoma either, i'm not too keen on that whole section of the country, it's all very beautiful but the current sociological climates there aren't where I want to be....i'll go there (to that part of the US) but not Texas, not until alot changes there, i'm simply too frightened.
and your nuts if you think that there is any way to have the gathering here. the cops were so bad it wasn't even funny. road blocks, tickets for dogs, and raids. Ark. is the buckle of the bible belt.
yeah........that whole region is a bad scene.....i'm leaning more and more towards sitting this out all together.
and if you could please go relay that info to agr, that would be really nice....a couple of folks there seem to think that ark is a wonderful place for a Gathering dudenamedrob: Maybe with all that is going on, it would be better to have many Gatherings all across the country...it'd at least keep the leos hopping...I don't think sitting out all together will accomplish anything. Get those folks that don't want to do Tx/Ark together & have a small Gathering were y'all can still be with Fam in Spirit.
no matter what, i'll b there. we should promote family coming together. i personally don't agree w/ split locations. when i left nationals, in vision council we were talking pacific northwest. i was prepared to go there. the vision changed. whose borders are these that we are so passionate about neway? i didnt grow up in ne of these states, but i love the land and the sky in them all. i love u all and will see u in main circle praying for peace wherever we r come july 4th.
I don't like split locations either but sometimes it happens. we were there for the Kentucky/Alabama split, it sucked not seeing some folks cuz they were at the other site and it was very confusing for some to figure out where Home was because both Gatherings were valid Gatherings. I'm only working info for this year because I'm hoping that there won't be an Arkansas/Texas split...I'm trying my hardest to get the communication lines opened but there's a lot of static on the lines, ya know? I do know that there are some folks who will attending regionals this 4th of July but those folks at the regionals will be in the same circle as us all for the prayer... C
the only state i've ever been pulled over in a vw van, believe it or not, and severly hassled has been texas. any hippies engaged in this conversation have said "beware of texas and mississippi (missin'hippie)". i have to add georgia to that list now. the leo's seem to have a severe lack of a sense of humor when it comes to hippies or drugs in those states. my understanding, though it may be homeland security rumor, is that haliburton corporation already has a contract for large portable detentions centers. i also am told there is at least one of those already installed and waiting for "guests" near the mexican border. i'm also told that because I-10 is such a california to the southeast drug route that all cargo trailers and large vehicles (like school buses and kitchens) are stopped and searched frequently in texas. needless to say, texas is on my list of "no, let's don't gather there" places (added to west virginia). but i could be wrong. anyway, council IS the only way to have a voice. love ya, chime
There is going to be a gathering in Livingston Montana... yea it's a regional gathering but hell if you wanna avoid heatstroke and want to see some beautiful country why not go there!
I've never been to Montana and i've always wanted to go there, from what i've seen and heard it's a beautiful place! I can definitely dig Montana...........hopefully someday we can all be there.
I've been pulled over (with the cruise control set) one out of every three times just driving thru texas. Have fun there.
Wow, not sure why we rarely get pulled over but in all the years we can down to TX for just the winter, driving a bright blue schoolbus & the years we've lived here; we've only been pulled over in the state 3 times total...once in the bus & twice in our rather plain looking van (we don't even have any bumper stickers on the van!) And each time we've been let off with a warning. We had some hassles parking in Austin, had a sheriff in Lumberton follow us back to our campsite to tell us that the bus didn't smoke but the worst road shakedown we ever had was coming out of Atoka, Oklahoma going toward Stringtown. Maybe the trick is to be as brightly colored & noticable as possible
Love to all, no matter where the gathering is I'll be there. It's worth whatever we have to deal with. After all True Rainbow Warriors been at it for years, here, there, & everywhere. Be kind, be sweet, let your lovelights shine. Hippiestead,, see ya at Kerrville, I hope. May be workin for one of the other vendors, I hope!! Lookin forward to it. Old Settlers was a fun camping fest. Spring is here,, Eyores was awesome, 3 generations of my family, after 30 yrs!! Awesome!! Frog painted breasts I had! Peace all,,,,,,