READ - Petition against ID card sceme!

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Passport-IDCards/

This petition is to break the link between ID cards and passport applications, if we collect enough signatures ID cards will no longer be compulsary for passport application, so those of you who do not wish to participate in the scheme will still have your freedom of movement. PLEASE sign the petition if you are in any way uncomfortable with being constantly tracked and monitored, once the cards are here it will probably make no difference so we need to act soon!


Visit this site for more information on the problems with the ID card scheme...

www.no2id.com

 

I will sign the petition but I doubt if this will be enough.

The original ID cards, introduced at the outbreak of WWII, were only scrapped in the 1950s after an act of civil disobedience. A 54-year old dry cleaner, Clarence Willcock, refused to produce his ID card during a routine check, and when his case came to court the judge ruled that the continuation of the scheme after the war had ended was an "annoyance" to the public and "tended to turn law-abiding subjects into law breakers". http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3129302.stm

 

Problem with no2id is that it does not advocate civil disobedience. It is basically a lobby group and as such is being subverted by the politicians themselves, to the extent that in Lewisham the local liberal MP is running things, and we all know the liberals sell you down the river. Just like when they hijacked the peace rallies in London and claimed to be against the war, but in parliament they chose to say they supported the troops, which is equal to saying they supported the financing of the war, which in turn is equal to saying they support the war.

no2id will sell you out they are basically being led from within parliament and if you go to their website and advocate wholesale dissent and try to ask those interested in burning theire cards to meet up, you are quickly told that you are out of order. Also you start advocating that the group break its links with parliament and let the people take the chairmanship of the local groups and that too is sneeered at. NO - YOU ARE MISTAKEN ! no2id is a bunch of mp's and their friends who, at the time of voting will vote for their pocket, their career, and their party loyalty, they will sell you out

 

Sentient, no to ID is not the petition site, it may be run by the government, but all that site does is give information, so it wouldnt make a difference anyway... how did you find out it was run by M'Ps?

The petition IS DEFINATELY on the government petition site, thus the reason they WILL take notice, if enough people sign it will give us a voice which is all we can realistically do sadly. It cant hurt anyway... =)

 

actually the government takes no notice whatsoever of those petition sites because they are not monitored for multiple entries by the same person, or under an assumed identity.
They are treated as mere stress buttons by the people who run the parliament website.
Also they are highly innefective since any petition may be started there and they overlap
so you have the no2id petition and 20 others

The government petition site is a farce

 

It might be on the government site, but they won't take notice. That's not me being cynical, it's just the unfortunate truth of these things. I still doubt ID cards will go ahead. I suspect the financial implications and the fact that they're essentially useless will cause a backtrack somewhere down the line. Either that or the Conservatives will be elected and will scrap the policy, eager to pick up a few liberals on the way. I don't mind signing petitions like this for the sake of it, like you said it can't hurt, but I seriously doubt even if a million people signed this that it'd make a blind bit of difference....

 

Petitioning doesn't work. Viva la revolucion!
Seriously though, taking to the streets is the only way to solve it. I will NOT get an ID card, when it becomes compulsory I'll move to Canada or somewhere that has a better history of respecting people's rights (not Amerika, they're about 10 million times as worse as britain).

 

It was your goverment who strip you off the right to self defense i think is the u.k that is 20 time worst than the U.S.

 

One thing I would advise is that if you need your passport renewing, do it now, ID cards will then cease to be an issue for you for another 8 years or so... The part I object to most about the cards is that you need them for a passport, even though your supposed to be able to "opt out", what a shit choice eh? Thanks to everyone who replied! =)

 

Bush's creeping police state is being ushered in through exactly the same means that Hitler used to overpower the German people. Along with the attacks of his brutal Gestapo thugs, Hitler achieved ultimate success when he got the people to spy and inform on one another.