Was Jimi Hendrix God?

It isn't hard to play Hendrix's style? I can see you point, but the same could be said of anyone. No-one's done it as well as him (blues-rock/psychedlia, that is.)

Earlier on in this thread you said that Yngwie Malmsteen was a better technical player.Well then, surely he could play 'Voodoo Child (Slight Return)'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7gC-EBE__g

Or 'Little Wing'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojUtFyfnIJE

Or 'Purple Haze?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95SYIpB0njQ

TECHNICALLY BETTER MY ARSE. If these so-called 'virtuosos' can't play Hendrix's 'easy' style then who's better? Shawn Lane, Dimebag Darrell, Paul Gilbert, Kirk Hammett, Buckethead, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen, Michael Angelo Batio - it doesn't get any faster than that, and yet none of them can do a good cover (apart from Hammett) of a Hendrix song (and you can see them all try on YouTube.)

If you don't rate Hendrix as the best than that's your opinion (he's not may favourite anyway) but don't go around spouting this crap about Malmsteen and Petrucci being better, because they aren't.

 

Christ...You really are stupid.

I'm not comparing them by sheer guitarist ability, I'm comparing them by techniqually.

In a guitar sense there is more theory involved in Petrucci (okay, maybe not Malmsteen) than there is in Hendrix, and thus making him techniqually better. I'm not saying either of them are better than each other, because they're both different styles and you can't possibly compare the genres with the guitarists.

 

I've played guitar for over seven years, and whilst Petrucci is (extremely) fast, he is (extremely) uncreative. His guitar solos are scales, arpaeggios and sweeps. Music is based around these things, but on their own don't make for very interesting listening. If you had made the point about, say, Steve Vai, then I wouldn't have contested it (or behaved like a twat, as it were) because Vai is very fast but also creative (most of the time). I agree that Petrucci is faster, but he's a one-trick pony. I look at is in this way; people don't judge Van Gogh on how fast he did his paintings, or Shakespeare on how fast he did his plays. Similarly, people don't judge Hendrix on how fast he played his guitar. Petrucci, Malmsteen etc are very quick, but they have developed their technique because they aren't creative.

Anyway, Petrucci is techniqually nothing compared to the guy I saw last night, Martin Taylor. He was playing five things at once whilst talking to the audience. And it was a lot faster than Petrucci, too. But I agree that comparing Petrucci to Hendrix is stupid.

 

This debate is still alive ?

 

...Why do you keep bringing up speed when talking about playing ability? Speed means nothing.

Plus, Petrucci is far more technical and creative than Vai. I don't think I can take you seriously anymore. I'm sorry.

 

hendrix was/is the shit.

 

Why the contest? All of the aforementioned guitarists are great. I wish I could play half as good as any of them. They are different. There are lots of guitarists and other musicians that have tons of recordings that are so so, but one or two tunes that are outstanding. I am not a big fan of Satriani or Malmsteen, but lots of folks go ga ga over them. I am a huge Paul Gilbert fan but who other than a few guitar connoisseurs have ever heard of him or Racer X?

I just love to smoke up, crank up the sterio and listen to great players play. I have preferences but I don't get caught up in who is better, who is faster, who is more technical.

When I listen to music I often imagine that it is me up there on stage, playing to an appreciative audience. Sometime in a small venue, or sometimes a pack stadium. Does anyone else do this.

One last thing. I don't get Stevie Ray Vaughan. He sounds to me like any number of blues guitarist that I can hear for the price of a beer on a Saturday night in any city. Can someone explain what I am missing?

 

Can some of the folks that have mentioned different guitar players post particular songs that represent the best of their recordings?

Thanks

 

Just go on YouTube and type in their names. I'd post some, but there's a filter on this computer (I'm in school.)

 

Yess

 

What a silly question.

 

Er, ears? SRV is the best blues guitarist ever, period. Also, the guy played Hendrix better than Hendrix did ('Little Wing') and I don't think that you can say that abbout anyone else. Joe Satriani used to open for him, and when they jammed, Satriani said that he couldn't believe what he was hearing. So SRV is obviously better at the blues than anyone ever will be.

I don't get Paul Gilbert. The guy has no soul whatsoever. He can shred, but he's not melodic or emotional in any way. He's just a wannabe-Malmsteen, and that's bad. He is very fast, but everyone can shred these days.

 

Petrucci isn't creative at all. He can shred better than Vai, but he certainly isn't creative in any way. I mean, they covered the whole of Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side Of The Moon', the whole of Iron Maiden's 'The Number Of The Beast' and the whole of Metallica's 'Master Of Puppets'. Not to mention they did a whole album of covers with songs like 'The Song Remains The Same' and 'In The Flesh'. I'm not saying that if you cover something you're not creative (SRV did quite a few covers, actually) but if Petrucci's so creative then why do Dream Theatre keep using everyone else's material rather than writing their own?

And if you're no talking about speed, then what exactly do you mean when you say 'technical'? You said that Petrucci and Malmsteen are technically better, but they only ever shred. So surely you're talking about speed?

 

There's no point even giving you any facts anymore, because your personal opinion is way too biased to even consider any leway. First you say Hendrix was the best, then you use racial slurs to insult Petrucci because you think he's not a good guitarist, and now you're saying SRV played better than Hendrix did. And you manage to do all this on the basis that 'SRV is obviously better at the blues than anyone ever will be', and exactly how have you backed that up? By saying that Satriani supported him (which I can't find any evidence of) and said he 'couldn't believe what he was hearing'.

Also, about that cover thing...

Did you not know that alot of Hendrix's hit singles (Hey Joe, All Along the Watchtower, for example) were covers and written by other people? And the fact that Dream Theater have done 14 albums, that are totally different, in the space of 20 years of their career is needless to say a hands down defeat on your argument. Hell, SRV only did 5 studio albums before he died. Not only this, but the fact that DT can play a HUGE variety of different music is talanted enough to say they out-do Vaughan on a musical technicality scale.

I'm sorry...But you no sweet FA.

Here's for you, Symple. Hope you enjoy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VIL_KE38q28&mode=related&search=

That shows their talent of reproducing a song justfully.

Here's one of their sheer technicality:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=82Leagl_i88

I hope you appreciate it more for what it is if you don't like it.

 

You guys just dont get it. Steve Howe is god of guitar, and Bach would be if he were alive to go beyond lute, cellos, viola and harp. :tongue: haha

 

I Agree with L.A.Matthews

Petrucci can do other things apart from play fast and he is Very Very Creative.
maybe you should check up on the meaning of "Creative" too.

I dont like this arguement that you can either play fast or creatively. It's wrong.
Chopin plays piano fast as hell doesnt mean he wasnt creative.

I think you might mean "Soulful" not Creative. Petrucci is a robot and not very soulful when he's in robot mode but he's not always in robot mode (An Evening with Petrucci and Rudess) and Hendrix is always soulful with his playing.

=)

 

Firstly, I do think that SRV was as good a guitar player as Hendrix, but he isn't as good because he wasn't as creative or important to the time. And he actually did four albums in his lifetime, the same as Hendrix.

'Dream Theater have done 14 albums, that are totally different, in the space of 20 years of their career.' That sentence makes no grammatical sense. And big deal. Frank Zappa did over seventy studio albums in twenty-seven years. And there are over ninety now (excluding compilations.)

The Satriani thing was on his website about three years ago in an interview, so I can't prove it.

'Do you know that a lot of Hendrix's hit singles were covers'. He did three covers on his the four albums that he released in his lifetime ('Hey Joe', 'Come On (Let Ther Good Time Roll)' and 'All Along The Watchtower'.) Only 'Hey Joe' and 'All Along The Watchtower' were singles, and the only reason he did 'Hey Joe' is that it was his first single and he was given no choice in the matter. I have 'The Jimi Hendrix Singles Album', and there are twenty-one singles and their b-sides. So yeah, 'a lot' of his hit singles were covers. His most famous songs - 'Foxy Lady' ,'Purple Haze', 'The Wind Cries Mary', 'Spanish Castle Magic', 'Little Wing', 'If 6 Was 9', 'Bold As Love', 'Crosstown Traffic', 'Rainy Day, Dream Away', 'Machine Gun', 'Message To Love' etc, were all written by him.

'You think that John Petrucci isn't a talented guitarist'. He is very boring. I would rather listen to Mozart for exciting music. There is, however, no denying Petrucci's talent as a guitarist from a purely technical point of view.

That first video was very good (I have heard the whole of their cover of 'Dark Side Of The Moon') but the singer has an annoying voice. Also, the guitar solo has some crap keyboard playing in the background. Still good, though.

The second video was rather dull, but yes, it was very technical.

 

And these guys, no matter how shite, make John Petrucci look slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG74eVb6V10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aVlLguYkIY

 

The only thing you've proven is that Hendrix did write most of his singles, which is granted.

However, I find alot of your statements quite contradictory. First you say Hendrix is the best guitarist there has been, then you say SRV is far better a guitarist than him. Also, I've never even said that Petrucci is a better guitarist than him other than his technicality as a guitarist, which you've now finally admitted after a long argument of saying he's not.

Oh, and stop bringing speed into the debate, because it has nothing to do with it.

And one more thing: could you please explain to me why my grammar is so shoddy, according to you? I'm an English Student, and would love to be corrected by a 15 year old.

 

This guys are 5 times better than Hendrix on the guitar: