3-20-07 Dear Piney: I sent you this DVD on 911. Please look at it with an open mind and be critical about what they are presenting. Tell me if you think there is anything false about what they are saying. It’s true that the White House and FBI lied to the Jersey Girls ( women of 911 victims ) and ran a false investigation ignoring much of the evidence, some which were NYC Police and Firemen reports. I think you’ll find the DVD entertaining, it’s better than anything on TV. I recommend that you pass the DVD around. If enough people see this they are likely to do a real investigation to expose who was behind it. It wasn’t a few ”rag heads” with box cutters. Send me an e-mail after you watch it so we can talk about it. Thus was the cover letter in a package from a dear friend who had moved cross country several years ago. It was flattering to be thought of. Honoring my friends wishes, I took the plunge and dove into an issue which I had ignored previously. Slapped in the DVD. The presentation makes a strong point that the World Trade Center buildings were destroyed demolition style. Great close-up video of multiple small puffs of smoke eminating from each floor prior to the colapse. Pieces of the skyscraper being shot out projectile style from the building to great distances. Even another building that was not even hit being dropped in less than 10 seconds! All of this is very attention grabbing. Generating some questions. Let us leave out The Federal Reserve Board of Govenors for a while. Joining the issue of the destruction of The Towers with other tangentical issues dilutes and confuses the main issue; almost like an over-decorated Christmas Tree. The Wizzard of Oz was the first conspiracy theory about The Fed. Though our Dollar is no longer valued by an OZ of gold, we are all still following the Yellow Brick Road to The Emerald city. The Twin Towers did not go down like dominoes, they "pancaked" right into their "footprints" It seems too neat, too antiseptic, almost profesional. Profesional demolition of obsolete buildings is no mystery to Americans, it almost has a cult following; everybody knows Americans are in love with the big bang. Rolling Stones even named a world tour after it. There is plenty of video of Demo Dudes at work. The Movie: "Atlantic City" opens with a montauge of demolitions of those antique barouque wedding cake hotels to make way for new casinos in Atlantic City. One can tune in and see the football stadium in Philadelphia get wacked, indeed it provides a kind of nilisitic thrill to see these buildings go down. Saw a special once. Demo is a highly skilled, labor intensive blue collar trade. Lots of equipment, lots of wire, lots of Dudes, all being excessively carefull. The camera took us through the abandoned building, wires all over the place, the charges are located in specific points all over the doomed structure. Yeah, neat to see that old building go down, amzing how they can contain the debris on top of the foundation and not damage other structures in a crowded city. Would these Demo Dudes really wire an occupied buidling? Doubt it. or someone would have certainly talked by now. Could the perpertrators of this act round up some flunkys to do the dirty work? Doubt it, this is very skilled labor, not like mixing a fertilizer bomb. One would imagine that you couldnt just wire-up The Towers like that abandoned building. Office workers tripping on the wires. Nerds trying to hook up the computer to " The New Entrnet Wire". People asking questions Nah The Towers would have to be wired on the QT with wires in heating ducts, behind walls, utility corridors. Even more labor intensive and high skilled than wiring an abandoned structure. I imagine it would take a long time to wire two 200 story buildings in this manner. I wonder how many man-hours it would take? Imagine all of the toys....all the miles of wire all the dynamite charges just how muuch stuff would it take to bring down The Towers? Even working nights of Sundays its a huge and very noticible job in a building with real high security due to the 1993 truck bomb attack. Such a project would leave footprints. some video of workers comming and going. Equipment being off loaded. Conversations: NYC Building Fire Marshalls are a notoriousy talkitive group of retired Irish Firemen, bored and curious they would have struck up a conversation with a hard hat . Thousands of office workers and train station commuters. Wouldn't somebody have noticed something? Everybody cant be on the take. Rudy Guiliani's NYC is chock full of video monitors. Somewhere there will be a clip of all of this clandistine activity. My DVD has a list of about 27 web sites to visit. Will I find answers there?
You bring up some very interesting points. I really don't know, I do however believe that the towers were demolished, the official story is preposterous, I can't see any explanation OTHER than demolition, it would be very interesting to figure out how they did it.
First of all, the buildings were 110-storeys. Not 200. Secondly, the buildings were not brought down in the traditional way. They were not imploded, they were exploded. This is a first in demolition history. We do not even know if CONVENTIONAL explosives were used. It's likely very unconventional weaponry brought the towers down. If unconventional explosives and/or weaponry were used, then the buildings would not necessarily have needed to be "wired" as they are in classical controlled demolitions. Even so, there were many reported power-downs in the weeks leading up to 9/11, where large sections of the buildings were closed-off and shut down, along with all power (this includes surveillance cameras). I personally believe that it's probable that directed-energy weapons were used in tandem with thermonuclear devices in the basements of each tower. I believe that thermite was mostly used on the outer frames of the buildings. This is simply what I believe from the research I have done.
It is clear that those buildings were demolished. The fact that none of this is being investigated says a lot about how corrupt our country really is.
I'm wondering if the Twin Towers were constructed in a shoddy manner. Not saying they were designed improperly, just assembled in a shoddy manner by corrupted people looking to cut corners. Could the domination of the construction industry by The Mafia's 5 famlies played a role in the unseemly colapse? Construstion of the Towers was at the height of Mafia power. I remember a big bust at a NY Thruway construction site where jobbbers got popped for using diluted, sanded down concrete. Investigators were watching from a hillside with binos. The Jobber had a financial rake-off using cheap materials. Could it have happened at WTC ?
No offense, but that's the garbage that's spewed by James Fetzer and Judy Wood. In MY opinion anyone who says that "energy beams" were what brought down the towers are trying to discredit the 9/11 truth movement. Don't fall for this crap. The vast majority of the movement believes conventional demolitions carefully placed were what brought down the towers. One of the major features of disinformation is to speak 99% truth and 1% falsehood that shatters the other 99% in the eyes of the mainstream, making us look a little kooky.
Yeah, but I base my conclusions on what research I have done, not on what the 9/11 "Truth Movement" and its self-appointed "leaders" tell me to believe. It takes a lot more than just thermate to bring two 110-storey buildings down in 10 seconds, and with the amount of energy seen with the resulting pyroclastic flows. Even if thermate was used to cut the core columns, what explains the intense energy released causing steel beams to lodge into neighboring buildings with such force? Can thermate do this? The fact of the matter is, when people act like thermate was the only thing used in bringing down these buildings -- ignoring the intense energy release witnessed with the collapse of these buildings -- it is THEY who appear to be discrediting the truth. There are a lot of things that just don't add up with the conventional explosives theory, such as why cars were found mysteriously charred two blocks away from the towers; why part of the north tower's core remained visible seconds after the collapse, only to suddenly vaporize into dust; why we see such unusual craters among the Ground Zero debris, such as in the remains of WTC-6... And what explains the elevated levels of tritium found at Ground Zero? Here's a simple fact: the government has advanced technology the public isn't supposed to know about. Why would they use conventional explosives if they have unconventional weapons that are much more effective in bringing down a building the size of the World Trade Center towers, especially when considering the collapse of towers 1 & 2 do not resemble any controlled demolition I have ever seen? Whatever brought these towers down was a combination of different things, not simply thermate and thermate alone. And if you want to talk about "discrediting" the "Truth Movement", why don't you start off by talking about some of the people representing it? The 9/11 Truth Movement does more to discredit itself than anyone on the outside ever could, even though I believe an outside influence is exactly what the "Truth Movement" is dealing with. I believe either it's been infiltrated, or was a counter intelligence operation from its very inception. There is some incredibly unsavory people who have somehow put themselves at the forefront of this movement. Does anyone ever ask themselves who these people are and how they got there?
I do wish the public knew the truth about 911 whatever it may be. Althought i highly doubt we will ever be told. Oh how i love the government LOL.
The point or goal of the movement is to get a new investigation into the attack, not to be squibbling over petty theories. 9/11 family victims are calling for an independent investigation. Energy beam theories are a load of crap, according to PHYSICIST Steven Jones.
Do you honestly believe you're going to get an "independent" investigation that points to the government carrying out the attacks? Don't be so gullible.
Nice try... This movement is global. The investigation would be held and conducted by an international body which consisted of people of all walks of life, not just government officials. You expose yourself with every post you make which means you insult the intelligence of legitimate truth seekers. You want to make people believe in a certain way. True activists want people to come to their own conclusions. For anyone truly interested in 9/11 truth, check out a video on google called: 9/11: Press for Truth. It focuses on the families and their still unanwered questions. Over and Out.
I have seen 9/11: Press for Truth. I have seen all the 9/11 documentaries. Unfortunately, those families will never get the private investigation they're looking for, and even if they did, it wouldn't get to the truth of who carried out the attacks. I would rather simply have people research the facts and understand what happened that day. An investigation won't solve anything, and even if it was concluded the government did carry out the attacks, who would bring those responsible to justice? The UN? It's funny you say I want to make people believe in a certain way, yet you are the one going around telling people who not to listen to based on what people in the truth movement are saying. You tell people to believe something, yet, unlike myself, you provide no reasons to back it up. Stephen Jones is one of the most shady characters in the truth movement. Just look into his background. If anyone is an operative, it's him.
Actually...if anyone's an operative, it's YOU. Thanks for giving yourself away with 1) your name (Rat? are you kidding?) and 2), your cute little self-descriptive avatar. Or maybe I'm wrong and you're just a gullible little moron. Either way, you have little effect on the truth getting out, if any at all. So...Steve Jones is "shady" but Jim Fetzer is not? Well it sure does feel good that honest truth seekers disagree with you by about, what, 900 to 3? Checkmate.
Do you deny that your viewpoint regarding 9/11 is not influenced by your conspiratory beliefs? Have you really accepted all the facts and evidence with a fair and open mind? Can you discredit the scientific evidence and studies that are available without simply discrediting them based on the idea that they are conducted by government shills? I am really not looking for the answers to these questions as they are clearly evident, I would rather have you ask yourself these questions and decide if what you believe is that because it is what you want to believe.
Many people believe 9/11 was an inside job, including NYC firefighters, police, 9/11 families, structural engineers, physicists, former military personnel. Even former members of the Reagan and Bush administrations have come forward saying it was an inside job. You'd have to be very blind or incredibly naive to believe the official story. I highly doubt you've done any research outside of what the government and media have provided you.