Does anyone practice Odinism? Im thinking of hitting up a local "pagan" fest in my local area and sounds pretty fun What are the main aspects of this religion?
Odinism is for people who couldnt get rid of their christian herritage. Its so silly to replace God/ Jesus with Odin, who comes from a polytheistic religion. It just makes no sense at all. Monotheism in a pagan live makes no sense. Paganism embraces nature with all its facings, thats the reason why Odin is one ONE of many Gods of the old Teutons. He is part of the religion called today ASATRU. Sara
I started reading about Odinism earlier today, and I read that, despite the name "Odinism" it's about the whole pantheon of Norse gods. I'm not 100% sure about any of this, mind you..
In Europe we call this Asatru and Odinism is just about Odin (like a replacement of God). I never heard of it another way, sorry.
asatru is pure americana. Odinism is not the same kind of religon you are used to, It's more about how to be a good human than anything else. its basic ideals are the 9 virtues and if you live by these virtues your life WILL be better for it. Unlike the religons of islam and there basterd child christianity there is no wiggle room in these virtues, they are absolute
Odin is the father of many "gods" and there is very strong evidence that it has been around for at least 20000 years
What makes you think Asatru is pure americana? Its not. Norway and some other scandinaviann countries call it Asatru and got it their native religion again (besides the big ones). There are much evidence that the mother goddess exists for that long time, but the only useable evidence of northern religions is a book called Edda, which was written in the early midages. This religion exists much longer, but 20000 is not realistic. But if you have this strong evidence, I would like to have some proof (scientist, book). I never understood why the age of a religion is soo important to pagans, even not when I was myself for many years. Asatru has its roots in northern Europe. BTW, with "god" I meant the christian one. I thought that would be clear.
ok pure americana is not acurate, it was established in iceland in the late 60's but became very popular in the U.S there are representations of the runes going back 20,000 years I.E. the symbol for odin in cave in southern france, and the swastica in tibet has been in use for at least 5000. the first saga starts out by saying, "in the time of the giants", we have written copies of this written in greek and going back to be before people knew about the megafauna that once inhabited the earth. so much of the old beliefs where stolen and preverted by the christians, and the age of these ideals goes a long way to proving just how full of crap christianity is
5000 years is not 20000. Can I get some information on the source about 20000 years old runes (not something "like" it) found in tibet? You may think christianity is crap, I thought so too. I say, most things you think you know comes from popular literature and romantic ideas. It has about nothing to do with real nordic religion and life before christianity. I am sorry to say - well, actually I am not. Its true and its ok. You can still have your own religion, its no matter with that. But its sad when people try to hold on everything to make their own projections real / and oh, OLD. Its the very same with Wicca. And btw, I cant think of any religion which is more far away from the peaceful happy love attitude that Hippies have. Its a religion of cold bloody wars and warriors. Peace, Sara
Most Astruar don't like the term "Odinism" or "Odinist", by the way. As it infers they worship Odin principally, whereas Asatru is not centrally based on Odin alone. Also, the 'white power' crowd of Asatruar are the vast minority, but unfortunately they get the most press thanks to their views. Odds are you won't encounter any, but be aware of them and do keep in mind that Asatru does -not- condone racism, regardless of what they tell you.
yes, there are many things I dont know, But I can reason. and in my opinion to believe that that books represents a being capable of creating an entire universe is a nuts So you realy think they killed the old beliefs? they never died but where just forced into hiding. and btw did you know that there are 4 other religons moe popular than christianity? christians hate that and what was that about what I know comming from popular lit and ideas? you think the vikings where pagans dont you? well the viking era was post christian. prechristians spread across the planet moving in right beside the native populations. what does reason tell you about a people who could do this? courage, truth, honor, fidelity, discipline, industriousness,self relience, perserverence, hospitality. these are the virtues, and they are imutable unlike christianity that says things like thou shalt not kill, then in ezek 24 says there tho shalt not suffer a witch to live
I also would like to point out that the earliest populations of modern humans dates back 50000 years in europe, mainly the south of france. it would be another 20000 before we began to realy spread across the planet. So which religons do think is older? the ones from this region or the ones that cut there way out of that dessert?
I never said paganism isnt older. There are some things you or I misunderstood, because you corrected me with things I didnt want to express. I think it makes no sense (for me) to go on here, because you cant fight opinions and there are things I take for fact, but others dont. But one thing: Yes, Vikings became christians, but they were pagans long before. They lost their religion in the early midages, but not before. Thats simply not true. Knock yourself out, Sara
I was a bit disprespectfull wasn't I. its the fact that so very many people have this stereo type of those who remained at the seat of modern man, continuing there lives the way the land had built them. Comming from a place filled with giants that could eat a wookie for breakfast and unending winters that went on for generations they deeply understood the need for peacfull coexistence within there comunities. The ideals they lived by began with the first words ever spoken, and where handed down through countless generations by a people deeply rooted in oral tradition. These people did not pretend at there simple beliefs, how could they afford to? They lived them, not as a religon in the sence so many do today, in this vast mosaic that is the modern world, But as a way of life. they where a people of honor to rivel any asian nation, they could not harm the weak, not when they where judged by there strength to protect them. nor could they take what they did not earn, not when honor was everything. what we now take as entertainment they felt intimently conected to. To them the knights of avalon where not fairy tales but models for how they must try and become. P.S. I am not what you call religous, I more bow to the posibilites
You know, I used to be pagan too, so I think I know some things too. I loved the pagan way, but for myself, I figured out that most of the things are totally unclear and books tend to be romantic crap - most of it. I never felt the deities, but thats just me, it has nothing to do with Paganism or Asatru at all. About paganism I love and loved the respect of nature and the bigger unity. Most people forgot about these things who used to be just normal, but as you said, its the way people used to think and live in the past. They didnt put it onto a religion, so everyone can have this attitude. One big thing I always had a problem with is the lack of respect towards other humans. Vikings easily killed others and they did it big time. The first christians came to them and they just killed them fast and their ship founded. Christian-Haters may laugh now, but this permanent war makes me thinking. I dont think (for myself) that hate, war make me happy, emotionally. I prefer loving people, loving nature and loving myself being totally positive.
Asatruar are not Vikings, and the traditions come from all Germanic tribes - not just stereotypical horn-helmet viking types. Also, Asatruar do not suggest killing your neighbor and looting their corpse is a good idea. Do some research.
Asatru is a modern religion (made of old traditions), so it CANT be Vikings, BUT Vikings are scandinavian Germanic people. And Asatru developed from their tradition. Well, you better do so, I never said so! Germanic people didnt wait long before killing someone and only lived with and for their own clan. Charity wasnt known to them. Do some research.
the vikings had gone away from there traditions. and the newest thing about asatru is the name, from what I can see its just a bunch of people having a little fun and repeating the old myths and sagas. well for the most part, its not like the patented the name or anything, so there have been a few instances of those trying to use it to assert control.
