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The tree

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by flowerchild23-91, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. flowerchild23-91

    flowerchild23-91 Member

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    If a tree falls and no one is around does it still make a sound?
     
  2. bluflame

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    You could look at it this way...the trees hits the ground makin a vibration and sound waves weather someones there to hear it or not...or you could look at it like if i cant hear it then there was no sound, which is just like saying "if i cant see it, it doesnt exist," you cant see oxygen, but you know its there!
    Yes it will make a noise, regardless.
     
  3. themnax

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    this isn't a question of anything but how you choose to define sound.

    i choose to define it as the audio signal itself and this of course exists whenever there's a source generating it. not just the one sound but all the little sounds that go with it.

    and as for no one hearing it. this is a forest right? there's always little furry ears in a forest. and every pair of them is SOMEone!

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  4. bluflame

    bluflame Member

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    ^true dat
     
  5. tree_hugger

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    This reminds me of something that Jack Handy from SNL once said...

    "If trees could scream, would will still cut them down?

    Probably... if they screamed all the time for no reason."
     
  6. Miss_Beatle

    Miss_Beatle Beatlemaniac

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    yes. I think it still makes a sound.

    idk. I just think it does. :)
     
  7. legend 1967

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    My cat is asleep right now,hope he doesn't fall and sound like a tree!:hysterica
     
  8. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    If I can't hear it, it doesn't exist.
     
  9. dodger988

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    While no one may hear it, we shall all feel it. In a minute way by the reduction in oxygen. Remember, this world is completely interconnected. One thing changing effects everything else in some sort of way. Chaos theory anyone? aka: The butterfly effect. So yeah, we do see it fall, just not visually.
     
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    It still make a sound, weither anyone hears it or not. Things that fall that are as heavy as a tree defenatly make a sound. Usually people say it doesnt because thewy dont hear it and regular human mentality is to ignore what doesnt effect you.
     
  11. sexylilunicornbutt

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    I say no, it doesn't make a sound. A sound is completely human. It makes something, but to be a sound requires a human to interpret it as a "sound".

    A sound has the quality of being "a sound". If no one hears something, that does not have that quality, so therefore it isn't exactly the same thing.
     
  12. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    There is no external reality. Everything that exists is in here, not out there. If there were really no living things around to process the sound, no, it wouldn't. End of story. Nothing exists if no one is experiencing it. Everything we see is just what our brains are tleling us we see. Same with sound.
     
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    Who is the no one. Are we talking about individual humans here or a theoretical sense?
     
  14. flowerchild23-91

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    By no one I mean't anyone who can hear so anything and everyone who can hear.
     
  15. dodger988

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    Forgot, also need to define hear? Are we talking about audio, or sensing in general?
     
  16. flowerchild23-91

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    Hear as in audio
     
  17. Frater Matthew

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    ok do deer's antler'a rattle why they fight? of corse. noise is just noise. the real anser is do trees feel pain? do they think? they can heal and reproduce so.
     
  18. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    That's a very shallow outlook. Nothing is "just noise".
     
  19. ~peace~

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    your an idiot.

    The answer depends on how you define sound. If you define it as the transmission of waves/vibrations in the air then yes it does. but if [you are a twat] and define it as how an organism interprets those waves/vibrations then the answer is no.

    but any person with half a brain and understanding of basic scientific principles should answer, yes.
     
  20. Peace Child

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    Well obviously it makes a sound, that's like saying, when we're not watching it, the Niagara Falls stops... Or when your boiling water for tea. I doubt you guys just wait there by the kettle for 20-30 minutes. When I'm making tea I go and sit down and watch television but I still know that the water is boiling. It's not going to stop boiling and getting hotter just because I'm not there to witness it. Or that's like saying 9/11 doesn't exist to the people who weren't there to witness it. It obviously happened you just see it from another perspective.
     
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