Do you think smoking pot is a good idea overall?

prepare to be suprised. i never had a single sip of alcohol untill spring break senior year, i started smoking three weeks into freshman year. but as i said alcohol in most definitely more of a gateway. i used to be very anti-booze when i was younger. not anymore

 

Surprise noted! But we have to look at the broader picture because use of marijuana has not over most of history and for most users been a negative experience but a positive one.

I've had bad experiences with alcohol, both personally and from what I've witnessed around me. I like an occassional good beer or wine or liquor, the mellow feeling is good but too much alcohol is not.

Here's an interesting statement back from the early days when marijuana was first inder attack in the USA. Its by a Dr. A. E. Fosser in the New Orleans Medical Journal (1931):

"The debasing and baneful influence of hashish and opium is not restricted to individuals but has manifested itself in nations and races as well. The dominant race (*he means white northern Europeans) and most enlightened countries are alcoholic, whilst the races and nations addicted to hemp and opium, some of which attained to great heights of culture and civilization have deteriorated both mentally and physically. While it is most unfortunate for humanity to be subjugated by intoxicants of any kind, which at this state our civilization seems to be a necessary evil, the possible substitution of alcohol for a greater evil should be consisered the greatest possible calamity that can befall a nation."

Fosser accepts that alcohol is a bad drug but better for us than marijuana or opium (only degenerate races use those!). It is interesting that as many of the Asian and Muslim nations began to westernize they passed very severe laws angainst the drugs used in their societies for millenia while pushing alcohol and cigarettes. To drink and smoke was seen as a sign of "modernity".

 

snoopdoggg, I agree. Staying up late (and taking too many courses at once in my case) will make anyones grades drop. I was quoting Bisexual God and responding to his comments. In my experience and that of many people I've known smoking pot did not have negative effect. It helped us to focus on our subject if we paced out our smoking with one-hits through the night.

 

wow .... only 15 voted no and 62 voted yes??!!
alot of hypocrites on this forum lol. just kidding guys but c'mon now seriously....

It's good that we all protect marijuana from the numerous false accusations and myths that surround it but still saying that smoking overall is a good idea; as to say that smoking marijuana is better than not smoking is a real hypocritical thing to do, imo.

Marijuana probably is the less harmful drug outhere but it still is a drug and wether we like it or not using it will have some unpleasant side effects sooner or later.
Wether we can sucessfully deal with these side effects or not shouldnt keep us from admitting it to ourselves.

As to answer the kid question: If I had a son I wouldnt encourage him to smoke neither would I keep him from smoking if he decided to (way better then gettin into cigs or alcohol, anyway). still Overall I would prefer if he didnt smoke.

Peace And Love everyone.

 

I'm always a little leery of the "lesser of two (or more) evils" argument. It always leaves you open to the argument that there might be something not evil (as in not harmful) argument. Any substance that acts on the brain carries risks and maybe for some people using pot is not a good idea. Could have a lot to do with their own maturity or self-understanding. Reading through posts all over this forum where people say the thrill is gone, can't get high anymore, etc etc makes me wonder if its such a good idea for them. Myself, I can't say I've ever had any problem (health or otherwise) with using it but in some situations its probably not a good idea (like in a bar full of off-duty cops).

 

yes. it expands your mind and makes you think about life differently. at least, it did so for me.

also, i have a lot of trouble sleeping, sometimes. legal drugs help very little, but pot? miracle drug. i use it about once a month when i just cannot get to sleep. wake up feeling great

 

it's greate that marijuana helps with your insomnia. In your case I think smoking is a very good idea, especially the fact that you use it with such moderation and only for medical reasons.

I admit that I have been quiet stupid not to specify from the beggining the I meant RECREATIONAL use specifically (especially if heavy) . In fact I think that medical use is a good idea.

^WORD

this pretty much sums up all what I said in this thread.

 

^ Donkey punches for all?

 

Pot will eventually---maybe not in my lifetime--be the "aspirin" or "penicillin" of the future. That is, it will turn out to be a wonder drug (already is, but you can't tell the anti-drug bastards anything). Might need to be avoided when driving or if you are schizophrenic---otherwise, right on . . . .

 

Anyone who trys to convince themselves that pot is a good think are wrong. Its not a bad thing, there arealot worsethings that are more socialy exceptable.

 

Hope its in our lifetimes. Marijauna: lowers blood pressure, lowers cholesterol, has anti-inflamatory properties, lowers pressure in the eyes. Marijauna holds promise for treatment of diabetes, certain cancers, certain brain disorders, treatemtn of stroke (again the anti-inflamatory properties), ulcers of the stomach. The two most abundant chemicals in its resin, THC and CBD, really do some amazing things, and I don't just mean to your head. This isn't a lot of cheech and chong up in smoke dribble. Its science and anyone can find out these things online at websites for science journals. But like you say al-Hallaj Kabir Ali, you can't tell those anti-drug bastards anything.

In the meantime we just have to sneak around.

 

Which is why big pharma hates it and wants to synthesize it. Profit margins.

If it could make an old fart's dick hard it would legalized in about three minutes.

 

i said no but i say the same for Acholcal, cigs, even caffeine. its not good for you but i don't thank it will rune your life

 

I just love the stuff. I consider marijuana part of a balanced diet.

 

actually I think smoking marijuana is a great idea. enough said.

 

But your burning up all the vitamins! Nothing better than cheese toast with a garnish of primo bud.

 

I actually think its better for your mind, not in ways that benefit your efficiency at work or any of the garbage we hold as important today, but I've witnessed a sense of well-being, of calm, and an increased depth in the thought process from its use.

Not much use in trying to expand the mind of a sheep, though, for most people its just a high... a fix... fucking shame.

 

The tradition of using marijuana to "expand the mind" goes back to before development agriculture most likely. But how do you translate that use to a culture/society that is only "spiritual" for 60 minutes or less once a week (or even less)?

Treating marijuana like a toy is like treating the space shuttle like a bottle rocket. It completely disregards 10,000 plus years of spiritual experiences had under its influence.

 

America is spiritually bankrupt... like you stated our idea of spirituality consists of a 60 minute lecture every week, and Christianity seems like little more than an identity for people, some kind of coping mechanism...

Ha, seems almost hopeless, really, to shift this fucked view the masses have on weed and psychedelics. On one side lies the group who treats herb as a narcotic, with a complete misconception of its use(no intention besides getting fucked up), while on the other side they are being observed by the sober ones, who upon witness of these fools make the assumption that all users are like this and that the substance should be avoided altogether. So one group never breaches the minimum potential of the plant, while another is too disgusted and misled to even comprehend the existence of any potential at all.

No one cares, anyways, everybody is doped up to their liking on television and etcetera products, there's no room for enlightenment in a a capitalist world. I don't even try to explain to anyone the mental benefits of marijuana... they don't see the use in deep thought, and they simply get weirded out and think of it all as idiotic hippy babble.

Artless, closed-minded and absent of spirituality.... the pessimism is killing me.

 

I wouldn't give up on people though or let yourself become isolated. You can't last long without people and we all need to bounce ideas off of others to prevent mental stagnation.

Even in churches or similar religious organizations you will run into the same thing with some who are very devoted to the spirit of the religion (community, giving, sharing, caring) while others are there for the fire insurance.