To drink or not to drink

bah. If a child wants to give it a shot, why not?

 

haha....why not....why not....?

I take it you aint a parent yet then lad...

Keep on hearing our small fella saying he dont want a drunk for a mother...talk about putting yer feet on the ground having a child....P H E W......!!!

Didnt know I was alive until he came to us!!

LOL!

 

Nope. My imaginary child would have the option to do what he or she wants, but to know the consequences of actions. Of course, my opinions can always change, they have in the past ... If I would be held responsible, then I wouldn't allow it, why? Because I'd be examining the consequences of taking no action, so I would be looking out for my own best interest - indirectly. Selflessness through acts of selfishness lol

 

Its so easy to say "how you would be"....the reality of becoming a parent can be something quite different.

Of course all people should be allowed freedom to do as they please, but unfortunately when children are young, they need "guidance"....

If I allowed my eight year old son to drink beer and eat copious amounts of junk food...we may have a few problems on our hands....

lol

 

I didn't want to drink or smoke any weed at 8 years old. I only wanted to when I met friends that do that, peer pressure is the greatest threat.

 

Oh I agree with the peer pressure thing Crud.....indeed I do....

Am trying to teach our son not to worry about running with the crowd. He is one of the only boys in his class with very long hair...when I say to him...he can choose how he wears it, he says "I dont wanna be like everyone else...I am me"....

Maybe he will take this attitude with other matters too....who knows?

 

yeah if you're 21 and want to drink do it.. i personally see drinking as wasting life. but its all a matter of choice and everyone has to make their own..

 

I'm Polish and I've always had my own wine glass during the holidays...

Drinking isn't that big of a deal as long as you don't get shitface drunk and cause others problems.

 

wine will never start a fight... it only makes u feel all warm and fuzzy inside, and i have a feeling its not the wine that does that... nothing beats a good bottle of some strong wine... in my humble, limited, opinion.

 

haha. i gotta call this one out ive been involved in quite a few wine brawls, wine is waht makes me and alotta peopole i know get nuts because of the easy to drink factor you catch a buz faster. drinking wine right now DONT PISS ME OFF!!


just kidding!!!!!!!!!!

 

i think ide enjoy a real good bottle of wine with u...true, it may cause problems, but so does everything... plus ure drunk, so who gives a shit, i suppose thats where it all comes from

 

from what i understand in rainbow history alcohol is not allowed past the entrance to hippie land. lets keep to the tradition and since a-camp has become one of our traditions if you want a beer just go to a-camp. come on people, its really not that hard. and if you decide to bring it in DO NOT drink it at main circle.Peace and love--Jody's camp and co

 

Lets be honest. A tree is judged by it's fruit. If one's consumption of alchohol causes them to inflict mental, emotional, or physical harm upon another it is identified as bad fruit. The line we must be weary of is that line of at what point we blame substances for actions. Can any of us say that we have never seen an idividual who was out of control while under the inluence of a pychedelic or other form of intoxicant? We need to be focused on behavior management rather then substane exclusivity. Just a thought. Love you all.

 

Most of the old concerts and festivals had a great vibe and energy around them since we did not drink except wine once in awhile.
Take a look at Woodstock 69 and Woodstock 94....94 was a horror and most were drunk.
Anytime you take a large group of folks-the sun and beer you will have problems.
I'm sorry I also thought that The Rainbows had something to do with Black Elk and his vision of a Rainbow people?
Booze never goes well with anything Native American...I know I am part Lakota.

I say keep the beer and fire water home and keep it green.

 

I think people who can drink a lot and have a propensity to transform into an altered state of mind know as an 'asshole', like me, should not do so. well, perhaps if their confined to a cage under watch where they can't hurt or offend others or themselves.
anyone can handle a drink or two, or a twelve pack, or a 30 pack.. but it will catch up with you one way or another and show you who was in control...

 

In my experience alcohol awakens the spirit of the extravert. It is about look at me, see me, and hear me. Smoke on the other hand awakens the spirit of introversion. It is about who and what am I. It is about who and what are you and what is our relationship about. It is about listening and exchange. Like I said this is only my experience and there are always exceptions to the rule. Also and mind altering substance usually amplifies what ever is in us to start with.

I have and always have had trouble with the “party” vibe. It is just not who I am. I love to dance with total abandon, to laugh and cry, to feel free. But the alcohol induced party thing is a different vibe. I don’t know how to articulate it.

I have never been to a Rainbow gathering although I would like to. I for one would not like it to be a drunken party seen.

How do I find out when and where Rainbow gatherings happen?

 

I agree with Symple. Alchohol has a completely different vibe than smoke. Most of us who are older, would like to go to gatherings...maybe even for the first time!! It meets the "original hippie" in us. But just to hip you drinkers (and I have nothing against it in other situations) it's a drag and buzz-kill to be around drunk people in that kind of setting. You don't know it, because you are drunk. It ruins it for the rest. If you're that defensive about drinking, it means you might just become obnoxious..I knew someone (and I'm sure most of us do) who once he began to drink was truly awful and frankly, dangerous to be around. So, if folks want a little beer or wine (like at Woodstock) fine, but if they get out of hand..they should be out of there. No judgement, just for the higher good.....
Blessings...OmGanesha

 

[size=+1]I apologize in advance that I have a lot to say about this. I have given it a great deal of thought over the years and would like to share my insights and conclusions thus far. I welcome any challenge to my thinking - I like to see things in full view and allow myself the opportunity that someone might point out something I hadn't seen before.

During my teenage years and into early adulthood I drank frequently, as many of us can say. In college I worked as a bartender for a very busy bar in Savannah, GA, which allowed me to experience alcohol consumption from a sober point of view in may forms of personality.

I also have experienced a parent that drank excessively.

I have experience with pot, LSD, mushrooms, etc...


My conclusion is this:

The effect alcohol has on the brain has a very high tendancy to (especially in large quantities) blur and confuse thought. It does allow some that are more introverted to unleash inhibitions and relax in a social situation - but it is my experience that it does so because it deadens the senses enough for that person not to feel the anxiety associated with socialization that they may normally experience. In doing so it also seems to deadens positive attributes.

I have countlessly experienced that it can elicit certain behaviors in people that are negative in nature and often contradict their normal demeaners. It can amplify those qualities that we may consider our weaker traits.

I have rarely seen a situation where alcohol has been the factor that assisted the partaker in reaching a positive self-discovery or life changing conclusion or the experience of something coming into focus that may have been just out of reach before - UNLESS these awakenings occured following a very negative event resulting from drinking that came about after sobering up and realizing these gifts in the throws of remorse.


I have seen far less hostility in the use of marijuana and has, in my experience, been a substance that offers a certain reliabilty in respect to the effect it will have on individuals. In other words - if you've seen a friend smoke before - chances are they will react in a similar manner each time you see them smoke. You just can't say the same for alcohol which is guilty of bringing many a benign personality to anger and hostility or even violence without a level of provocation that make sense of the behavior.

I have experienced several occasions in which marijuana has been a contributing factor to deep meditation and introspection which can assist a person in self awareness and assessment which often lead to personal growth. I have also witnessed certain individuals that smoke it to "check-out" or to supress certain personal demons and have see that using the substance in these cases can have a powerfully negative effect - usually in the long run. The thing is - this seems to be the exception not the rule and is more of a self-destructive consequence than one that would effect a surrounding general population. Let's face it, someone that is walking a path of self-destruction can create a weapon of most anything - chocolate can become a negative substance in the hands of someone who is engulfed in this manner of thinking.


In the case of hallucinagens, again if used responsibly offers the opportunity for growth and discovery and connectivity that alcohol just cannot afford. Senses tend to be piqued rather than dulled. I do not think it is for everyone and once you gain the tools to reach the greater areas of consciousness on your own - I feel it's much more validating and impacting to do so without any substances whatsoever unless it's hydration or nourishment.


To me, the experience of a gathering more than enough to bring on a state of piqued awareness, openess, and accessabilty to those regions of our minds that allow you to more easily connect or socially interact because in tapping into them you tap into a REAL self-confidence - rather than being able to let loose because you've numbed your insecurities. There is a realness there that I feel is priceless. There is a growth in this process that will help you to more easily access confidence and contentment and relaxation even when you are not in ideal settings. If you try and find your carefree self anf confidence through alcohol - those insecurities will only become stronger when you aren't impaired.


Having said ALL THAT - a glass of wine amongst friends or a cold beer on a hot day isn't a bad thing.

But drinking to intoxication in a setting where you are afforded MUCH greater delights and a lasting powerful life experience seems to be counter-productive and my wish is that the Rainbow experience can become a much deeper and more meaningful one for everyone - and that can't be experienced when you are fuzzing out all of those groovy brain activities that come alive just on the energy alone.


It's a magical thing - and for people that are riding that energy wave - it can be a SERIOUS downer to be snapped out of it because someone intoxicated themselves and becomes out of control and intrusive.

Respect that and if you really would rather experience the feeling of drunkeness - just do so away from the inner circle. It's the heart of the magic. Better yet - drink some other time and choose to connect to the vibe and give the gift of sharing YOU and reap the amazing experiences.


Wishing Peace and Contentment all around!
Pixie






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