Catholic and Bi

I'm pissed off that people seem to think that it's impossible to be christian (especially catholic) and bi or gay at the same time. WHY NOT?!
I'm Roman Catholic, and I'm bi. I don't ignore my orientation or try to fix it. Both are parts of who I am. Due to my religeous beliefs, I keep all my relationships with other girls chaste. That's all.

Am I the only person who's comfortable mixing the two?
(Please say no!)

 

Leviticus 18:22:
"The penalty for homosexual acts is death to both parties. They have brought it upon themselves."

That's pretty much why a lot of homosexuals find it hard to be Christian; they'd have to admit that they should be executed.

Don't take it too hard though; here are some more great teachings from the Bible: stone your teenager to death if he drinks too much, enslave people from other countries and kill their children, the Universe was created in 6 days, and a giant flood killed all the humans and animals on Earth except for Noah, his family, and one member of every animal species on the planet that he managed to fit on his big-ass boat. Oh, and the sun is 32 feet long, the world is flat, and the sun revolves around the Earth. Every single one of these is in the scripture.

The Bible is both morally and factually wrong. If it makes you feel bad about yourself, trash it. If it doesn't, trash it anyways because it's a big book of bullshit.

 

I hope you will continue to think of yourself as a Christian and I hope you will do all bisexual (female or male)Christians a favor by remaining in the Roman Catholic Church bearing witness to your conviction that God, whom we all claim to be our God, didn't err in creating you with your unique sexuality, a gift which you may gratefully own as good. Institutions change slowly. I belong to a Protestant Church which deliberately aims to be friendly to persons whose sexual orientation is different. I have RC friends who now find greater acceptance in my local church. Much as we welcome them in our congregation, I have a gut feeling that they might have served the cause of better understanding in the community if they had remained in the RCC and exerted pressure there for change.

 

my husband's aunt is living with her roman catholic partner in malaysia. she's a woman at peace with herself and her faith. it can be done, your walk with god is specific to you. what you know to be true in the depths of your soul and your communion with god is your's and your's alone. don't worry about the doubters and skeptics. they have their own road to travel. give them your love and your prayers and live the way you feel you should.

 

Well said.

 

if i remember correctly, the only problems the bible has with any homosexual act, is with sodomy, whether you are straight, gay, bi, tri, metro, or whatever is next. in matters of spirituality, i find it best not to trust anyones opinion but your own, most religiuos experts and leaders tend to prefer pre-pubescent boys anyway. good luck and godspeed.

 

I am having the same battle as you are having. it hurts a lot. and is so confusing. i'm sorry i can't be of more help. i just wanted you to know that you're not alone.

 

if people reading this thread, read just this one message then it will be well served
S

 

i used to consider myself catholic, but then i started realizing that i was indeed bisexual. i saw my religion/faith slowly slip away. i don't know what i believe now... i go to youth group with my friend sometimes and the whole time i just sit there and think, well this is just sounding more and more like a load of crap.
but i don't want it to be that way, the tiniest fiber of me just wants to re-believe.
sometimes i don't know, really.
i barely see what this had to do with this thread. i'm sorry if you just read all this and it wasn't connected.

 

Don't be so intolerant.

You're no better than the people in the church who chastise her. I agree with what you're saying, however, it is completely inappropriate to denounce someone's faith because you believe it to be wrong. Try and be a little more openminded.

By the way, Leviticus 18:22 doesn't state what you have shown above. It says,
"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Please cite your other bible references.

 

I agree with you fully, its a shame this thread has been used as an excuse to just bash christianity, my partner couldn't be more gayer, however he has strong roots in the christian religion as well.
if you follow the teachings of christ and being roman catholic your love of the mother mary it is my belief that you will be able to live the two
S

 

1) Compare. People in church: We don't accept homosexuality. Bible: Kill people who commit homosexual acts. Me: Gays have the right to have equal rights. Right, I'm no different at all.

2) I don't believe they're wrong. I know they're wrong. Faith is just a curtain of closed-mindedness to hind behind. Faith that the Earth and all life was created in 6 days, that a giant flood killed all life on Earth except for a man and all the animals that could fit on his boat in the face of real evidence that makes these impossible. No, I'm very open-minded; I considered the Bible and I considered opposing views. The Bible only makes sense to a closed-minded person that refuses to consider evidence that doesn't fit behind the closed curtain of faith.

3) That translation is hundreds of years old in a version of English that no one speaks anymore. I just provided the same passage from a modern translation that people would understand better. If someone today says that Joe had sex with a girl then they say, "Joe had sex with a girl" not "Joe lied with womankind." They mean the exact same thing.

Oh, and the continue your theme of closed-mindedness, you didn't consider the words that came immediately after that passage, and are part of the same passage, in that translation: "they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them"

I was trying to show why many homosexuals find it impossible to believe in Christianity and why they shouldn't feel bad about it since the Bible threatens all kinds of underserving people with death (children from other countries, etc) and how it was clearly just written as fiction by men as stupid as modern people that want to kill everyone instead of a perfect being that wants to kill everyone(a perfect being wouldn't make such blatant, stupid mistakes). Treat the morals and words of the Bible as you would the words of any crazy men today: non-sensical, since it probably was written by crazy men of yesterday.

 

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this arguement is only valid for fundamental christians, there are a lot of christians that see it has a book of its time, written by many different people and as such some no longer applys and some like the creation is just a myth.
the people that I know that follow the teachings of christ who only ever spoke about love are able to follow their faith and their sexuality.
and btw your only doing the same thing that a lot of fundamental christains do, if one only relays on quotes from a book as evidence to follow or not follow a religion, its a pretty empty arguement.
S

 

Then your partner is following his own version of an Abrahamic religion. The Christian Bible doesn't leave much room for interpretation over homosexuality.

Also, when the Bible claims it was written by God and not men, how do you justify seriously believing in morals proposed by men who claimed they were talking to God through their heads? Talking to beings in your head is a classic symptom of schizophrenia. You're admitting that you're essentially following the teachings of written schitzophrenia. And not really following them, just picking and choosing what makes sense to you. (Disregard this passage that condemns me to death b/c a man wrote it, but I like this one so I'll follow it so God must have written this one)

 

Like I said you've made your point your not comfortable mixing the two, now leave room for someone else to answer this thread and don't fill it with bible quotes, because thats not what was asked for
S

 

Exactly.
No one is saying you are not a Christian because of a sexual preference. However, once you get into specific denominations of Christianity - they have very specific guidelines about that. It's like saying "I'm purple. I mean, -technically- I'm a shade of yellow...but I have strong purple upbringing." You're still yellow.

Non-denominational Christians seem to have it a little more together(no offense to anyone out there) anyway, friend.

 

EDIT this thread is being abused, on this talk about YOUR experines of christianty and homosexuality, this thread should not be filled with posts after posts of trying to make people think that christainity is wrong, neither should it be filled with posts trying to get people to believe in what you believe in.
if this continues i will simply delete any posts on here that I feel is abusing this thread, if you feel it is wrong or right for you say so, however there are far too many posts of trying to force opinons onto others
-samhain

 

The only advice I have is stop being pissed off and listening to others chatter and uninformed opinions
it sounds like you have your ying and yang lined up and we are all heretics in diff ways
I just picture Jesus talking with a gay person, not churches and the picture is pretty clear. Keep it up, don't second guess Jesus love and ignore the ignorant, it's always there
peace my friend
God bless you

 

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