Real or Not?

Discussion in 'Global Warming' started by dead_head_0000, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. Nymphette

    Nymphette Member

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    Did you all see "the day after tomorrow"??? well we should make sure that it never comes to those extremes! whether its real or not right now.. itll eventually happen if we dont do something about it NOW! Our children and grandchildren will suffer if we dont act on it now whether real or not. It's a sign to act upon. To clean up our planet.
     
  2. life during wartime

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    agreed. the vast majority of experts are in agreement concerning global warming. the dissent is coming from nonexperts who just so happen to have agendas (the religious right, oil companies, other fat cats who are in cahoots). the media likes to take this small, biased amount of dissent and turn it into a big conflict that puts both sides (informed science and shady claims) on equal footing, when they are really not equal at all.

    whose opinion is more worthy of your trust, scientists who are experts in their fields, or people who are at risk of losing money or power if the world starts actively responding to global warming?
     
  3. Smithy

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    Hi 'life during wartime',

    Incredibly well put! It's finding people like you on these boards that keeps me going! That and the future of my 2 kids, and that my daughter wants me to have grand-kids...

    Regards,
    Smithy
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  5. Smithy

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    Here's a quote from the front page:
    How likely is that to be true? I'm not saying you shouldn't visit that site, but beware, it has a story behind it:

    - http://www.exxonsecrets.org/html/orgfactsheet.php?id=95
    - http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Junkscience.com
    You could search those sites for Steve Milloy too...

    And if you saw Tim Ball on TGGWS then you might appreciate some more background there too:
    http://www.desmogblog.com/tim-ball-ad-hominems-ad-nauseum
     
  6. Pixieface

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    basically i've stopped believing in global warming the day every politician in the world jumped on the band wagon especially Bush (satan himself) i think it is profitable for these nitwit politicians to force feed us global warming for their own gain!!
    never believe a politician!!!!! oh and by the way did anyone every hear of the ice age or the bIg melt or the time when the earth was on fire???the earth goes through naturally climatic changes every couple of million years but the time is not NIGH
     
  7. Cornball1

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    It is true that the Earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling, many of these are brought about geologic events such as giant volcanic eruptions (we're talking yellowstone size), magma fields (the size of Montana) and others. It just comes down to the speed of change. If its a gradual change life has a chance to adapt and can servive just fine. When things happen quickly evolution doesn't have time to occur and change a species. In the past when global catstrophy happens very quickly (such as a super volcano), we see a genetic bottle neck occur in the species that survive and mass extinctions. The issue with the current phase of global warming is that mankind is causeing it to happen at a rapid pace. Also, global warming has the potential to occur at an exponential rate, as the temperatures rise methane that is trapped in the permafrost of the sea beads and artic tundra is released. Methane is a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2. It is possible that a point of no return can be reached and once there, there will be nothing we can do to halt global warming. Right now there are to many people on earth to stop global warming, the important thing is to slow it to give species a better chance to adapt to it.
     
  8. MeowMix

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    I do believe that it is real, but global warming is a natural thing. Everytime the seasons change a natural whole is created in the ozone layer. Now us, polluting isn't helping it. And breeding cows for our own personal convenience is just stupid because they;re the biggest polluters out there with methane gas spewing out of their asses!
     
  9. MeowMix

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    To add on, when the Earth moves every season, and gets closer or farther away from the sun a natural whole is created.. Or at least thats what I've heard I think it is possible.
     
  10. brainstew

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    Im not going to argue but this is the fiorst time in history for Philly that we had weeks in Winter that were 70 degrese and weeks in Spring that are 30! If that's not global warming then what is? Our weather's been out of wack. almost 20 feets of snow in parts that usually see 5 or 6! Ice freezing an entire town. Even if you think global warming doesn't exiost isn't it better to be kinder to out Mother Earth and be safe than to pollute her like we do now and be sorry?
     
  11. lunarflowermaiden

    lunarflowermaiden Senior Member

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    I wish people would quit being in denial about this, and that is what most people are--in denial. Anyone who has not noticed the changes in our climate must be, unless they are completely ignorant to the world around them. Yes, weather fluctuations are normal, but not how we have been experiencing them. When I walk outside of my home in April and see a blizzard outside, I know there is something wrong. Why is it so hard to believe humans caused this? Really take a minute and think about how much damage we do to the Earth. Most of it comes from selfish needs, not anything we need to survive. Why is it so hard to give up the SUV and make adjustments in order to save our home and our future generations' home? I don't know about anyone else, but I am not fond of the thought of them dieing off because we were too greedy to do the right thing and take action to help the world. The simple truth is that you cannot abuse the planet and expect it to still provide for you.
     
  12. tinyd4nc3r

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    Have you seen an Inconvient Truth????well obviously not, global warming IS REAL and if you don't believe and arn't outraged then you're not paying enough attention. Ice Sheets in Antartica and Greenland are breaking off, polar bears are drowning because their only home is melting, and their is increasing Co2 emissions suffucating our air, this is our earth we belong to it, it as offered us everything we know, and we are not the only species who live on this planet and we are the only ones contribting to this tragity......mother earth is our only home unless you want to live on someother planet, which sounds a bit depressing actully really depresing, she does not deserve this ignorance.
     
  13. sentient

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    Well done !!! Well said indeed !!! at last fol;ks, we have a winner, someone prepared to stand up and say it like it is, - now all that needs to happen is for a few of these people in the forum who are either too old or too stupid to change their ways to at least begin thinking on the subject. - seriously keep up the good work

    Honestly, I was a pretty strong believer until I really looked into it. What I think is a little funny / odd is the fact that in the 1970's, there was a big "Global Cooling" scare, which was proven false years later. When you really take into account that each side has equal amounts of propaganda injected into every word that comes out of their mouths, it makes you almost feel sick to your stomach - even if Global Warming has some truth to it, no individual could shake the planet enough to make somebody start caring about it - and if it became widely accepted, would we even be able to reverse what we have supposedly done throughout the history of mankind to pollute our environment?
    Of course there is a way. You simply find scientists who have no vested interest in lying and see what they say. The studies composed by "New Scientist" magazine are revered for their unbiased position and infact NS actually pays scientists to take an unbiased assessment of the scientists the commission. If New scientist says something is true you can bet your asshole its true - if they say "its unverifiable" then they dont know - if they say its not true - then its not
    They commission studies that take absolutely years to complete sometimes and for one reason only to discover the truth about stuff and not to take sides just because they are paid to take a side.

    now check here
    http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns

    and here http://www.newscientist.com/blog/fromthepublisher/
     
  14. mr.morrison

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    even in my short lifetime of 16 years ive seen first hand evidence of global warming. when i was a little kid i remeber there was ALWAYS a big snow storm every winter. we always got at least 5 days off school a year. now, the most we get is a little bit of sleet. people can argue about the causes of global warming, whether its natural or not, but there isnt any denying that its real.

    and because of global warming your kids are gonna learn about polar bears, arctic foxes, penguins, etc in history books.
     
  15. -moonshine-memi-

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    your 14.
    do you really understand what global warming is?
    something you said about 2006 not being the hottest year makes me think you dont quite get it.

    global warming doesnt mean each day the earth gets hotter and hotter. its a long process that will fluctuant.
     
  16. tinyd4nc3r

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    2006 was the hottest year......global warming began its long process at the start of the industrial revolution which was years and years ago and we are now, by increase in temps and co2 emitions in our air, relizing these effects.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Do I believe global warming is real? Yes. Do I believe it's because of humans? No.
     
  18. dead_head_0000

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    Yes I understand, I have watched many shows about it, and have read many many articles. Of corse the world is getting warmer, im not denying it, i'm just saying its not man made. Also this big temperature change everyone is only 1.8 degrees F. in the last 100 years.
     
  19. dead_head_0000

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    And About An Inconvient Truth, Al Gore's Professor, The one he is always talking about in the movie said Al Gore is full of crap and he misinterpreted what he was saying. Too bad he is dead ....



    And in the movie, did anyone notice there was not any numbers on the graph?

    Also the reason all the scientests that Say they believe, are only saying it because they get lots of money!
     
  20. dead_head_0000

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    Guess what.......Greenland used to be GREEN! You just can't judge your oppinion on what a hypocratic politician says!
     

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