strong handshake

yea, i agree with that...MA isn't just about technique anymore - well high level competition wise - strength and conditioning are huge factors nowadays...just look at Gracie, great technique, but not as strong as competitors who have quite the technique for themselves too.

if both have high level of technique, its going to come down who can sustain the strength and power output over time...

 

The Gracies will fail because they've made such a name for themselves they've become unwilling to look into other aspects of hand to hand combat.

I usually don't eat sugary food so much. But any time it's really hot, or I'm sick I have a sweet tooth. One of my teachers told me about the chemical that gets depleted that makes you want sweets, but hell if I can remember.

 

yea i agree with that...many competitors are quite proficient in different types of MA that it brings the game to a new level...

hmmm thats interesting...i don't eat much sugary food either. but when i'm hot i do get a sweet tooth also..but not when i'm sick...it would be interesting to know what the chemical is. but i just don't eat much sugary foods anymore, it makes me feel ill - do you get that feeling also?

 

Nah, not really ill. Just doesn't taste good much of the time. Not like when I was a tyke.

 

ah...its not as i get ill, just that watery taste in my mouth running down to my stomach...pretty much the only sweet i can eat regulary (other than nice chocolate) is root beer barrels

 

ive had so many guys rant to me about firm handshakes

mine are always firm cos i have to counter-act people looking at me and thinking im a fragile gentle little thing.

 

I don't give firm handshakes. I'm really gentle-like, and I usually talk softly, and have a hard time holding eye contact because I'm painfully shy when meeting new people. Well, unless I'm liquor-lubed. Then, I'm a total social butterfly.

 

I hear guys rant about it too and a few jobs ago I had an intern insist on shaking my hand because his work study class consisted of giving a formal handshake.
I just think it is soooo annoying as the people who complain are always complaining about their superiors or people who have clearly made it in the corperate world. You're there to learn from somone who has obviously taken time out of their day to mentor you. That person is very busy and is basically volunteering their time to help you with a class project and you're going to discredit them on a handshake? It's like fucking come on and show some respect. I know I would never dream of calling out one of my superiors for having a weak handshake after they took the time to meet with me, hire me, mentor me...it's disrepectful and shows a complete lack of professionalism.
I think it's the complaining about the handshake rather than the tradition of hand shakes that get to me. You're there to learn a profession or work for somone who the hell are you to judge them. I can't get past that. IT IS ONE OF MY BIGGEST PET PEEVES.

 

I'm all for a good firm handshake. It's the guys that try to cripple you with one that piss me off. I mean...we're being introduced not arm wrestling.

Those guys seem to think a handshake is about establishing power or some other bullshit macho thing. It's like two dudes meeting for the first time and whipping their dongs out instead of just shaking hands and saying hello.

Okay, that was a weird rant.

 

i would never dream of calling someone out publicly over a handshake...all i'm saying is that it can be a bad first impression. now first impressions can and do change...many of the people i've met with a poor handshake, have been great people...some turned out to be quite crappy. when i get a chance to meet with a professional, i take the time and listen and learn what they have to say and i always send out a quick thank you note afterwards, even if they did have a poor handshake. just becuase i see it as a weak first impression, doesn't mean its correct measure of thta person - and i've been wrong and i admit that - and i certainly don't make those thoughts public...i have respect for people taking time out of there work day to help me out or others out

but growing up and even now i still have many people - everyone i've talked to, from the President and VP of my school (both Generals), to Directors of Non-Profits i am apart of, to my dad's boss, superintendant of boston schools, city councilors, state reps, and congressman my dad grew up with, all espouse the qualities of a strong handshake.

again, this is just for the purpose of the first meeting...afterwards once i know them, it doesn't bother me much at all because i move to hugs for females, and handshake/hug type deal with meal or a pat on the shoulder

 

I've encountered that... I usually respond in kind and the introductory "power grabber" will show some surprise at not being able to intimidate me..

A limp handshake is an expression of a lack of respect as much as the power crush.

 

my parents raised me in old school "ladylike" behavior, which basically includes a dainty offering of the fingers, which the man gently grasps. can't help it. those lessons all those years ago REALLY stick. i tried to change to the firm grasp thingie, but it's totally unnatural to me.

 

yeah, i can do the eye contact sizing up someone thing, but like i said, i offer my hand palm-down.

 

Actually, come to think of it, that's how I offer my hand too, just the fingers.

 

Bad handshakes can be just as much of a bad welcoming as lack of eye contact. They seem dismissive and ignorant. The only exception I have with a weak handshake are for girls, whom I don't even swear, or spit around, let alone grip their hand like a vice.

 

Ewwwww....germs!

 

Yes I agree, a firm hand shake is the sign of a man! A wimpy fish grip is not a man's hand shake!




Bustramp

 

never mind. I am upset at interns in general. Not this thread. I shouldn't of commeted. Sorry, I am way to sensitive on things when I should let go and realize it's okay to have a different opinion or personality.

 

I know I said I was going to let it go...but your statement is ridiculous.

 

i just see it as a lack of confidence at the initial first meeting...sometimes i'm proving wrong, sometimes i'm not. i'm not talking about breaking a guys hand...i'm talking about a firm handshake that acknowledges both parties.

i've always been complimented on the handshakes i give, along with writing quick thank you notes for the chance to meet with that person or company. thats how i was raised. for example, i met with a financial institution through summer search...when summer search asks kids to send out thank you notes, mine was already sent out well before they had even brought up the notion of sending out a thank you note. i have tremendous gratitude for people taking time out of there day to give a kid like me a chance - i know they dont' have to help and i fully understand how precious there time is.

i dont' get hung up on it..i'm just saying it gives off a bad first impression though. and like i siad, i'm proving wrong sometimes...its not as though i ignore the person after the handshake - tht would be rude and arrogant.

maybe its totally different over on the west coast...but this is the way it is here and its the wya i grew up and its what i keep getting told by my elders in various professional communities.

no hard feelings

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