Kurt Cobain

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by brainstew, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. ashbury1500haight

    ashbury1500haight Member

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    KURT IS FOUND
    FRIDAY MORNING, APRIL 8th.
    Dylan and I were on our way to the Carnation property once again. We stopped for gas and Dylan got out to make a phone call. When he came back to the car, Dylan said a friend just told him a body was found at the Lake Washington house. Was it Cali, Kurt or someone else? We turned on the car radio and soon heard that the person found dead was Kurt Cobain. Dylan showed no reaction.
    Later we heard on the radio that Kurt's body was found in the "greenhouse." I turned to Dylan and asked, "What's the greenhouse?" Dylan told me it was a room above the garage.

    "Why didn't we look there?" I asked.

    "It's just a dirty little room. I think they keep some lumber in there or something," Dylan replied

    I called my office and spoke with Ben Klugman. He told me the credit card company indicated someone had continued trying to use Kurt's credit card as recent as Friday morning, April 8th, just hours before Cobain's body was found.

    We soon learned Cobain had been dead for two days or more. Now it was apparent that someone had been trying use his missing credit card since the time he left Los Angeles to return to Seattle. Someone also attempted to use that same card after Cobain died!

    I called the Seattle homicide detectives and tried to tell them something was wrong. The detective told me Kurt was locked in the room by himself. He said the door was locked from the inside and the fire department had to break a window on the door to get in, inferring that Cobain had to have been alone in the greenhouse when he died. I assumed they must know what they're talking about, but I was curious about what kind of door lock this was.

    I spoke to Courtney on the phone that afternoon. She wasn't at all upset that we hadn't found Kurt. She acted as if she thought Kurt died the night before. If so, we could have saved him if we'd found him in time! Why wasn't she angry at us?

    Courtney tried to get me to talk to the press. I told her I didn't want to say anything until I found out more about what happened. This whole thing smelled really rotten!

    I left Seattle and flew back to Los Angeles.

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    RETURN TO SEATTLE
    WEDNESDAY, APRIL 13th.
    I met with Courtney's entertainment attorney, Rosemary Carroll, at her Hollywood office. She indicated that she was suspicious about Courtney's involvement in Kurt's death.
    "He wasn't suicidal, Tom. Kurt wasn't suicidal!" Rosemary blurted with a deep sigh.

    Rosemary told me that Courtney had called her "a couple of weeks ago" and asked her to find "the meanest, most vicious divorce lawyer" she could find. Courtney also asked Rosemary if the prenuptial agreement could be voided.

    Rosemary then told me that Kurt had also called during that same time period. According to Rosemary, Kurt hadn't completed his will yet. He told Rosemary he wanted Courtney taken out of it.

    Rosemary indicated she was disturbed and somewhat suspicious that Courtney wouldn't let her or anyone else see the so-called "suicide note." I mentioned to Rosemary that Courtney said she couldn't go to Seattle herself because she "had business in L.A."

    "She didn't have any business in L.A.!" Rosemary snapped.

    During our meeting, Rosemary also told me that on Thursday morning, while Courtney was at her house talking to Dylan Carlson on the phone, she overheard Courtney say, "Be sure and check the greenhouse."

    Since Courtney directed Dylan to check the greenhouse, I couldn't help but wonder why she hadn't asked Cali to check the greenhouse in the past few days.

    We now know that after talking to Dylan on the phone Thursday morning, Courtney left Rosemary Carroll's house and went back to the Peninsula Hotel. A short while later, she called 911. First reports have Courtney overdosing again. She was later arrested. Rosemary has since shown me evidence that Courtney's "arrest" may have been a deliberately planned event.

    As Rosemary and I concluded our meeting, we both agreed it would be best for me to return to Seattle to further investigate Cobain's death. Rosemary, however, was adamant that Courtney should not be told of the private discussions we were having regarding the suspicious circumstances and events surrounding Kurt's so-called "suicide."


    6:30 PM
    I flew back to Seattle and checked into a hotel. The next day I went to the Lake Washington house. A security guard at the house let me in and I found Courtney sitting at the dining room table. As I approached and sat down to talk, she said, "I guess I really found the right P.I. this time." The flattery was nice, but it didn't make much sense.
    After a short conversation, Courtney got up to get a cigarette and a lady walked over to where I was sitting. She was wearing a black T-shirt that read, "Grunge Is Dead." I assumed she was a relative of Kurt's, maybe a sister or cousin. She stood in front of me and asked, "You're the investigator?" I nodded while she continued, "What do you think?"

    Not knowing who she was, I replied, "I don't know. What do you think?"

    She answered by introducing herself. "Well, I'm Kurt's mom, Wendy. I don't know. Something doesn't seem right. Why didn't Dylan look in the greenhouse?"

    I noticed Courtney looking over her shoulder as Wendy and I talked. She seemed to be concerned about our conversation. I told Wendy I'd like to talk to her at length some time in the next few days. She agreed and said she'd like to talk to me too. As Courtney walked back towards us Wendy began walking away. Courtney put her arms around Wendy and kissed her. I noticed Courtney whispering something in Wendy's ear. The rest of the time I was at the house, Wendy seemed cool towards me, almost evasive.
     
  2. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Courtney Smith sucks. Someone should destroy her dumb face in with an aluminum baseball bat!
     
  3. brainstew

    brainstew Member

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    The so called "sucide note" he wrote was to tell his fans he was laving the music industry. The only part that mentioned "suicide" was a part written in a completely differnt handwriting, simular to Courtney's. Even if you dont like Kurt of Nirvana, you could at leat check out evidence like the kind all over the internet before you say something as non-steller as you just did. no hard feelings though.[​IMG]
     
  4. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    The special on VH1 had some good stuff.
    It had penmenship experts at Harvard University claiming the same thing as brain stew about the suicide note.

    Autopsy report claiming that the amount of heroine in his system could kill a horse. He wouldn't even be able to open his eyes, much less hold the weight of a shotgun.

    Police that examined the scene saying that the length of the shotgun was too long for Cobain to pull the trigger with his finger. He would have had to use his toes, but he was wearing shoes.

    An interview with Courtny Love's father. He himself believes that his daughter had something to do with Cobains death.

    Love on camera claiming that she would eliminate anything (with a sinister look in her eye) that got in her way.

    Evidence that Cobain threatened to divorce Love, and take their daughter away from her, only weeks before his death.

    The ashtray in the room he died in, contained 3 types of ciggerettes.....Cobains brand, Love's brand (with slut-red lipstick on them), and another kind.

    All 4 of the tires were flat on the car he was driving.

    So on and so forth. But Kurt was very much suicidal, so who knows? Theres just too much evidence agaisnt suicide for me... The look on Courtney's father's face when he said he thinks his daughter might have killed him, did it for me.
     
  5. brainstew

    brainstew Member

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    that chick is creepy
     
  6. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    It didn't seem like anyone was building anybody up like a martyr....regular ol' humans are murdered everyday.
     
  7. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Why would he want a girl like Courtney Smith, anyway? She's pretty damn fat and ugly IMHO I think she was bigger than him. He could've did much better :D
     
  8. brainstew

    brainstew Member

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    Kurt was only 114 pounds when he died
     
  9. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Wow .. If they didn't find the body, I'd figure that she ate him. 114 for a male is really ... wow lol. And how tall?
     
  10. brainstew

    brainstew Member

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    Im not surehe was a bit short compared to Daev and Krist
     
  11. ashbury1500haight

    ashbury1500haight Member

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    kurt cobain was murdered.... end of conversation....
     
  12. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Ever heard her sing? My gawd ... sounds like a bar drunk :D
     
  13. thegreatbuddah420

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    its obvious Kurt was Murdered, the first clue is the shotgun...if he was to do it it wouldve been fired from his right hand by the way the gun was positioned, kurt was indeed left handed and there was no powder residue on his fingers, the barrel was to long he wouldve had to fire with his foot, the gun was resting on his chest so if anyone that reads this has ever fired a shotgun it has a bit of a kick to it it wouldve flown across the room, Courtney love offered a gentleman by the name of "El Duche" money to kill kurt he said no a week or so later he died after his car "mysteriously" got pushed into an oncomming train, the suicide note wasnt all his handwriting, all four tires on his volvo in the garage below were flattened, he had enough heroin in his system to kill him 2 times over, and lastly his wallet was next to his body and his credit card was missing....so you ask was he murdered? I ave no doubt in my mind he was murdered I dont know how the investigation team didnt see that....unless they were paid to keep quiet by courtney love
     
  14. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    I hope Courtney Love walks off a cliff :p Then again, it might cause landslides hm
     
  15. hippy i am

    hippy i am poppy seed bagels

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    oh i believe love murdered him.
    courtney love, that is.
    not the emotion.
    because what they had
    was clearly not love at all.
    i heart cobain.
    i would have done great things these days.
    especially with all that is going on in the world.
     
  16. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    She looks like some kind of beast.
     
  17. hippy i am

    hippy i am poppy seed bagels

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    oh & the smack.
    the amount of smack in him
    would have never rendered him to shoot himself.
    there would be no motivation, whatsoever.

    besides heroin doesnt make you commit suicide along with it.
    although you can commit suicide using it by od'ing.
    but i dont think those were his intentions.

    heroin doesn't make life suck, believe me, i know.
     
  18. hippy i am

    hippy i am poppy seed bagels

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    who looks like some kind of beast?
     
  19. hippy i am

    hippy i am poppy seed bagels

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    LMAO.
    i feel your pain, lol.
     
  20. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    ...i kinda do....but i dont really know what to beleive.
     

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