first trip

Discussion in 'Cacti Delecti' started by Ancient One, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. Ancient One

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    To the bathroom. Had no other significant effects. Im disappointed, but taking information off the internet, I suppose, isnt perhaps all its cracked up to be.

    Beats me.
     
  2. jbmac

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    I think you got some bunk stuff, the real thing in moderation helps.
     
  3. Ancient One

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    No, It was san pedro. I boiled it. Possibly alcohol extraction is the legitimate way of drawing a dose.
     
  4. jbmac

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    I would learn to like the taste of chips or fresh, chase it with soda or something. Yah it' s not good tasting, but think of it as health food. Even a small amount works wonders.
     
  5. bushbaby

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    i've had amazing results from boiling
     
  6. Ancient One

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    Using the internet means trying to figure out who is telling the truth. There are lots of opposite information. Some say boil 12-15 hours, some say long boils destroys akaloids, boil 4 hours or less, etc.

    I split the difference, summarized all the different techniques, took all the commonalities and ended up doing two boils. A four hour boil. Then drained the fluid. Then a three hour boil. Then drained the fluid. I boiled the cactus in a high percentage of lemon juice, probably greater than 50% and tap water. I had decored the cactus, couldnt remove the outer waxy skin so left it on, chopped it up, put it in the blender with a third of a bottle of tequila, poured out and kept on low heat for about 45 minutes before commencing boil.

    Odd things noticed. Pulp I threw away after boiling was green. Pictures Ive seen had white pulp remaining. Also very likely the pots I used may have been aluminum metal (coated with black), the internet advises strongly not to use aluminum but doesnt explain why.

    After boiling, I had 450 ml of green fluid. Decided couldnt drink, so put in refrigerator til decided I would boil down into syrup. Put into pyrex glass baking pan, put into oven at 140-200 degrees fahrenheit with the door cracked. Turned into brown syrup which solidified into sticky hard black substance. Was expecting to be able to powder material. Too sticky. Put into refrigerator again to think, decided to rehydrate and drink. Put into hot steaming water for a couple of hours till was brown silty fluid. then put into refrigerator for a week till had time to use. Smelled like liqorice. Tasted faintly lemony. Fairly tolerable to drink. No effect other than diarrhea.

    I believe that what I had was concentrated lemon juice boiled down to a syrup. I believe I gave myself a vitamin c overdose. I lost at least an 1/8 of the original boil due to wastage and phase changes. Original cactus was 15 inches long, at its widest was 3 inches wide, but was top of plant, so a percentage of the live cutting was tapering to the 1 inch wide top.

    Oh well.
     
  7. Stiney

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    Ah thats a pity it didn't work for you, that can be really really annoying, especialy when its your first time and you have yourself all psyched up for it. Like the first time I got my hands on GHB and I took to much and just passed out for hours.

    I'd say next time just eat it, instead of trying any kind of extraction.. Then at least you know for certain your going to get an effect. If you can't bring yourself to eat it fresh and slimy. Just dry it out and grind it up. Thats what I did recently. I despined it, then skined it and cored it, then diced what was left, and left it to dry out. It took four days to fully dry. Then I threw the hard dry pieces into a blender and, ehh... dustified it. Then I just mixed it into a jug of water and downed it in a few big gulps. It tasted a little like muddy water but it was ten times better tasting than the fresh stuff, besides after each gulp I just chased it down with a mouthfull of beer. But once you have it grinded up you could pack it into capsules, mix it up with chunky peanut butter and eat it on a sandwich(you wouldn't taste it all all then), or a million other things.

    Better luck next time bud.
     
  8. cechmangoal1

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    I just had a my first trip on san pedro. I extracted it by boiling it for 5 1/2 hours. I got it down to a large cups worth and only drank 3/4 of it. I still tripped for 6 hours which was abolutely amazing. It was the best trip that I had on anything. The taste is fucking disgusting though. It's the worst thing i have ever tasted. I smoked a cigarette while drinking and now smoking reminds me of the taste and I start feeling sick. It's that bad. It was still well worth it. I think that i got lucky with a potent cutting, so if I were you I would try it again and sooner or later you'll get a good one.

    Best of luck
     
  9. Ancient One

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    Thanks everyone. Ive still got one cactus in the freezer and its bigger (3X12) than the one I tried. But is still from the same source. I learned alot doing the first extraction, so hopefully next time it does something. Ill boil it for 12 hours in distilled water with no lemon juice, then dry it into a paste and take in capsules or roll up coated with sugar.

    Heres hoping.
     
  10. NursesCantDoDrugs

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    Good luck. I've been working on my stuff for about...almost 5 hours now. I blended up 6 x 12" pieces and cooked them down (took two times of boiling to do it), then boiled the total remaining pulp a third time. Just squeezed the pulp out and am boiling down the whole mixture to a manageable size (right now, its WAY too much fluid to drink).
     
  11. Ancient One

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    If it works for you, please post your success with very specific breakdown on the process you used. PM me if youd like. Did you say you boiled down six different 12 inch cacti at the same time? San Pedro? thx
     

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