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Discussion in 'Protest' started by crud3w4re, Feb 17, 2007.

  1. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    What If I won the mayorship of a town, and then I proceeded the seize the wealth? What do you think would happen? I start running a communist town :p Kick the businesses out and seize the wealth, then expand the local government to run them. etc etc hm would be quite interesting.

    • Seize the hospitals - The local government will now take charge - Free and universal healthcare /// nationalize
    • Increase police presence
    • Seize educational facilities and nationalize them.
    • Default the city council and appoint Comrades
    • Each industry in my town be assembled into labor unions
    • Free basic housing
    • Implementation of my system of prestige
     
  2. StartToday

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    You can't just seize businesses and hospitals and schools like that, especially not as a mayor. That's why it hasn't been done. There are laws in place to prevent such things. You would have to be really high up in the government, or have lots of really big guns. Or both. And you would have to get the people on your side first, otherwise they would be terrified. The word 'Communism' isn't too far apart from the word 'Terrorism' in most people's minds. Depending on the size of your town, getting word out about your plans might stir up quite a bit of attention before you ever set foot in office, and the feds would either use the Patriot Act to arrest your ass, or just arrange a car "accident" to kill you. Unless you didn't have sizeable support from the people, in which case they wouldn't pay any mind because you posed no threat.

    I just don't see this happening.

    And what good is increased police presence going to do? Cops do much more harm than good.
     
  3. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    I thought a Mayor "owned" the city? hm I guess the only alternative would be Governor .. But then, the US Government would probably sic the National Guard after you, along with a speedy Congressional impeachment. :p Nice idea though. Why more police? Well, I'd probably disarm the current police, and then arm Comrades with some AK-47's shipped from the Middle East ... Then hold the police in jail until we feel like they won't be a threat. Probably curfew's ... hm Would be a bit rough at first, I admit. heh Then we'll setup roadblocks to impair traffic, so that we can begin consolidating everything ... Then the Governor warns me, but I say shut up - So he sends the National Guard and ... uh-oh

    :)
     
  4. StartToday

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    You should start off much smaller than an entire town. If you need to arm comrades with AK-47s, you can probably take that as a hint that the people still want their old cops and mayor and way of life.

    Buy some cheap land in North Dakota or something, and start a commune. When you get enough people, buy some more land and fill that up too. Then declare yourself a sovereign state. THEN people will take notice, and anyone who supports you will come from far away to help/join.

    Kinda like the EZLN. Of course, the feds probably won't take kindly to attempted secession (remember the civil war?). Anyways, I would be up for such a plan, because it's building from the ground up, as opposed to hijacking an entire city.
     
  5. Gerva

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    is that true that strikes in the US are forbidden (as well as they are in Switzerland)?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    You sound like a true DICK-tator, crud munch.
     
  7. wave owls not flags

    wave owls not flags is not interested

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    what makes you think local law enforcement would support your communist ideas?
     
  8. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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  9. Cultural Creative

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    hmmm... but you seem to forget that the basic principle of Communism is that the government will eventually step out of power once everyone has been made equal.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    LOL! That is one of the biggest lies ever sold.
     
  11. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Let me post some of my thoughts that I posted in another thread:

     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Ever heard of free will, crud, or do you only prefer totalitarianism?
     
  13. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    That's what I preach :)
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    So you're an admitted fascist?
     
  15. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    Well, even though you don't know what Fascism is, no. I told you that I PREACH FREE WILL! What does STARTING a commune have to do with Fascism? LOL
     
  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Starting a commune is harmless since you're not imposing anything on the whole of society without their say. Communes are for people who WANT to live communally. Unlike a communist society, nobody forces you to join a commune.
     
  17. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    It would be a SOCIALIST commune :) This town idea was just some blah I thought of - This thread would've been better in the "Random Thoughts" section. Anyway, people would be join willingly, leave willingly, obey the law, and have DIRECT DEMOCRACY implemented within a SOCIALIST commune. If it grows, it grows. If not, then it doesn't. I believe that if you can't run something properly in a commune setting, then there is no way in hell that it could work in a NATIONAL setting!

    http://ao.com.au/ddf/aki_orr_manifesto.htm

    This is the system ^^^
     
  18. OleFlowerMan

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    Hey Crud...i scanned that DD site and i'm goin back in for deeper dive.

    You got a GREAT attitude man. It's the WHOLE HEART principle. :)

    Peace&Love

    Paul
     
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