Barack Obama the warmonger

Obama has recognized the influence of Iran and Syrian on the situation in Iran. Obama also believes that Iran is currently in the process of developing nuclear weapons. He believes in increasing the strength of our diplomacy, but does not rule of using military force to prevent these weapons from being developed. Does this make him a warmonger?

 

Not the least bit. Iran is a threat not only to the notion of world peace, but to itself.

 

How so? Please give me YOUR opinion and not some talking point you heard on the news.

Also, I'd like to hear your opinion on how the US and Israel are not a threat to "world peace."

 

If only there was a politician that had the ideology that we need to keep our noses out of everyone else's business...I'd be all over that...unfortunately, to my knowledge, there isn't a candidate for prez that I've heard of yet that feels that way...

 

It makes him a puppet of the masters at the top, who control the office of President, be it Carter, or Clinton, or Bush. You don't get elected to office unless you are a willing servant to the people running the show from the top. You have to be a yes-man, and this is what presidents are. They are nothing more than figureheads for the corporate and banking elite. That's why it doesn't matter who is elected to office -- Democrat or Republican -- the agenda remains the same. Maybe someday you will wake up and realize this and stop taking sides. You're no better than the zombie liberals you hate. You're a sheep just like they are, who is taking one of the sides that's been given to him by the establishment. Trust me, the people at the top could not care less whether you vote Democrat or Republican. The very notion of political parties is merely for the public's consumption. At the top, there is only one party.

 

Yea, and unfortunately it's very unlikely that there will be such a candidate, either.

 

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So he wants to be out of Iraq by 2008. Nobody else has the guts to even mention a timeline.

I approve of Obama the more I see him speak and the more I listen to the man.

 

I don't watch the news.

Iran is openly against the Western world, you know this. Iran has also never denied supplying extremist terrorists with weapons... add the two together.

Israel has never attacked anyone on any grounds other than self-defense, these attacks at times have not been well performed, or even ethicly performed, yet they are justified within modern warfare.

The U.S. is a completely other story though.

 

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That is a pathetic response.

"Justified within modern warfare." WTF!

"Israel has never attacked anyone on any grounds other than self-defense." Yeah, and I'm Santa Claus.

I suppose when Israel launched their recent attack on Lebanon, all for a few soldiers being kidnapped, it was all about "self defense." Right. You continue to believe that.

And please, the US and Israel are one in the same when it comes to foreign policy. Israel practically runs the Bush administration. Look at the architects of the current war, many of which hold dual US-Israel citizenship.

And as far as Iran "never denying" supplying the Iraqis and "extremist terrorists" with weapons, well, they have never admitted supplying them with weapons, either. It's funny how a few months ago, we needed to invade Iran because they supposedly want to build a nuclear weapon to use on the US or Israel. Now, it's all about Iran supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons. It's amazing how the story continually changes, much like it did leading up to the Iraq invasion, yet there are still people buying into it hook, line and sinker, too dense to realize they're being lied to yet again by the same pack of criminals.

How convenient is it that the bomb recently discovered, which allegedly came from Iran, bears English markings. Iran gets its weapons from Russia, including their mortars. Russian mortars do not use 81mm rounds, rather 82mm rounds.

It only requires a little bit of critical thought to see through the lies.

 

At least he admits he's done drugs in the past...

"I did not inhale..."

*sigh*

I like honesty much better.

 

Israel waas completely justified in Lebannon, not because of the soldiers, but because of a range of terror attacks, but I agree... that war was an idiotic move by Israel, and was performed with complete ignorance... it did not make me like the Israeli military or Olmert more.

I am less bothered with Iran's link to Iraq then Iran's link to the Hammas, the Islamic Jihad, The Fattah, and so on.

 

I would have to disagree with you there, Skip.

I don't really pay much attention to what one politician says about another politician, because for the most part it's nothing more than a dog and pony show that the media is more than willing to jump all over. It's no different than celebrity gossip. They give us all sorts of distractions to confuse and mislead us, never getting to the real issues.

If Obama wasn't part of the system, he wouldn't be getting a fraction of the coverage he's been getting. People don't get this kind of coverage in the media unless it's intended. They have been grooming Obama for years. I knew this when I saw him speak at the 2004 DNC. I knew then and there that he would be a candidate for president in 2008.

The fact that the DNC chose him to speak wasn't by mere coincidence, either. This was the image of Barack Obama being introduced to the American public for the first time.

The people who most pose a threat to the "status quo" are the names you never hear mentioned in the mainstream media.

 

This is an Iranian projectile. It is identified on page 57 of the Ordnance Identification Guide.

https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/PDF-low/03-Projectile.pdf

http://diomil.ir/en/amig.aspx?search_id=morar

 

I know you're a jew hating loon, but this is beyond stupid. A few soldiers being kidnapped? Oh so you "forgot" about the ones that were KILLED. Tell me, what country lets armies in a neighbouring country cross its border, kidnap and kill people, and not respond? Are you saying Israel has no right to defend itself, they just have to sit there and let their people die? Is that what your conspiracy websites tell you?

Except they don't hold dual citizenship. "Dual citizenship" is a code word for jew used by anti-semites. Because they can allege that since someone is jewish they could hypothetically be eligible for Israeli citizenship, even though there is no evidence whatsoever that they are Israeli citizens, jew haters like Rat accuse these people of being traitors.

So Iran never armed Hizbollah? You must be the only person left in the world who doesn't know this.

 

Wackyiraqi - why are you using my info under your screen name? It's one thing to want to be like me and copy me, but that's just silly.

And to Pepik, formerly known as Pointbreak, who was banned from these forums because of his bullshit.... yes, yes, right. I am an anti-semite because I am opposed to Israel's racist actions. I am opposed to Israel ruining people's lives and bulldozing the houses of innocent Palestinian families (often with the people still inside). I am opposed to a government that will run over someone like Rachel Corrie with a bulldozer for defending these poor Palestinians against the atrocities of the Israeli terrorists.

I guess if you're NOT an anti-semite you will support these atrocities.... at least in the warped mind of neocon scumbags like Pepik.

Again you spout the bullshit you hear coming from the media, where anyone who criticises Israel is an anti-semite. Frankly, I don't care if you think I am an anti-semite, and if being an anti-semite means what you think it is, then I will gladly admit to being an anti-semite and am quite proud of it.

And yet again, you have your facts screwed up, because members of the Bush administration DO hold dual-citizenship. One such person is Secretary of Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff.

When neocon Richard Perle was campaigning for Bob Dole, he was simultaneously campaigning for Benjamin Netanyahu as well... talk about a conflict of interest.

 

Could you give a link to an instance where he stated something to this effect?

 

I agree reminds me of WMD, and Iraq's role in 09/11. Makes as much sense.

 

What about the palestinian civilians that were killed while they were enjoying a vacation unarmed. They were bombed by Israeli bombs on a beach. And our government sat by and watched as Israel bombed the shit out of one of the few democratic nations in the middle east?

http://wpherald.com/articles/721/1/Commentary-Israels-quotWar-of-Destructionquot/No-sense-of-urgency.html

You want to talk about dual citizenship. Mexicans are allowed dual citizenship, want to guess where their true loyalty lies.