Support the sex industry

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Raelian1, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. Raelian1

    Raelian1 Member

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    Rael's Girls support sex in the city

    Do you Work in the sex industry?

    Do family and friends support this professional choice?

    Are you a connasoiur or supporter of the sex industry?

    Can you accept and encourage sexual freedom and the right to pleasure?

    Could teachings on sensuality, sexuality and the right to pleasure be the first step to a more balanced life?

    Are you sexually fulfilled?

    Can our upbringing or religious beliefs influence our views on sex?

    Think about these questions then consider this...

    Do you have a tendency towards drugs, abusive relationships, spuratic behavior or bouts of depression?

    Studies have shown that an inactive spiritual life or a spiritual life diametrically opposed to what one really holds as true personal values can be a direct cause of negative effects in our life, mind and body, and a general distortion in our state of being...

    Rael's Girls and the Raelian Movement promote spirituality for the 21st century whereby sensuality, sexuality, pleasure and fulfillment can be used as tools to aid spiritual growth!

    Rael's Girls...
    Are women from the "Raelian Movement" who have decided to take action in supporting the sex industry...
    Those who work using sensuality, sexuality and more to make a living by bringing pleasures to their consumers.

    They are also supporting the men and women who pay for this industry to exist...those who inhabit sex shops, strip clubs and all other channels of the sex industry!

    If you interested to know more
    Visit: www.raelsgirls.com
    email: raelsgirls@raelsgirls.com
    or
    call: 1-888-RAELIAN

    Note: Rael's Girls was formed in response to the JC Girls (Jesus Christ Girls). While the JC Girls try to make women and men guilty for their sexual escapades, Rael's Girls embraces sex as long as it's done by consenting adults.
     
  2. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    I've got mixed feelings about this one. I guess a woman (or a man) should have the right to sell her body, provided she's not turning it over to a pimp/extortionist. But as it stands right now, she's exposing herself to a lot of sick guys, some of whom are murderers. You already know about the Robert Pickton case in Vancouver, Canada, I'm sure. Pickton is on trial for murdering six female sex trade workers and allegedly he has confessed to the murders of 43 more.

    I talked to a teenage girl a while back in rural Alberta, who was threatening her parents with running away to the big city (Edmonton). I told her, "About once or twice a year, the RCMP find a woman's body dumped on a rural road east of Edmonton. Some girl just like you, who thought she was in control of the situation and the people around her.

    "How is your mother going to feel," I asked, "when the RCMP show up at the house and say, 'Ma'am, we've found a body east of Edmonton, badly decomposed, and the dental records indicate it is your daughter's, and we'd like you to come down and identify it?' Just how is your mother going to feel?"

    Incidentally, the girl's mother was listening to this conversation, and said I'd expressed some of the fears she'd been feeling.
     
  3. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    Each to their own and every individuals choice, but damn, im not going to SUPPORT it. I support good things. Things which help the growth of mankind, not hinder it. Non-destructive things, things which promote beauty and wonder and magic. Paid sex with strangers? I think ill pass
     
  4. superlz

    superlz Member

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    So I'm thing about what elevates us above animals
     
  5. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    Hi Raelian1:
    Yeah, I've been known to pay for it (sex). Women can get it whenever they want at the snap of a finger, if they're half way decent looking. I didn't call paying for it spiritual, then or now. It's like hiring a mountain guide -- sometimes you have to do it, but it's not something you brag about. (The mountain guide I told this to got a kick out of the analogy.)

    Say, how are your flying saucer pals doing this week?
     
  6. BodyElectric

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    Why are people only jumping over the whore train? This site seems to cover all of the sex industry from strippers to pr0n shop workers (Like I was). And it's interesting to have been in the 'industry' and see how many still have hang ups and guilt issues over sex or sex as a commodity(not meaning just whoring).

    I'd jump more on the 'don't drink the kool-aid' train if I was y'all.

    The principle in general isn't that bad.
     
  7. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    I wonder how many prostitues are out there who think selling their bodies for money, drugs, or whatever actually find it spiritually liberating?

    I wonder how many enjoy their job and if they ever had enough material amends, would they quit?

    I cannot believe the vast majority or even a small percentage connect through their spititual side by selling themselves for a couple of measley bucks. I don't believe many buyers do I either. I just cannot imagine it...

    Furthermore, we live in a time and place where fatal sexual transmitted diseases are running rampant. Who is going to pay for HIV medication that a prostitute needs to stay alive and take care of her child? Last time I checked, there were no health benfits in such a dangerous profession.

    With that said, I believe people should be able to express their sexual sides freely. Yet, how "free" are you when you are OBLIGATED to have sex with strangers just in order to SURVIVE 1 more day?

    Continuing on, we already have a serious issue with sex trafficers in this world and even in this country I live in. If prostitution DID become legal, I can already see the problem we have now, which is indeed HUGE, will only grow tenfold.


    So tell me again, why should I support this industry who has basically NO support for the prostitutes themselves? Contrary to the industry, I immensly support the prostitues by NOT supporting the industry.
     
  8. crud3w4re

    crud3w4re I like Grunge.

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    I'll take the Libertarian approach: Well, people can do what they want, the end. lol. The only bad thing about pornography is the exploitation of women and STD's, well, I guess child porn, as well. I don't really watch any porn, that "Girl's Gone Wild" thing looks distasteful, it's continually annoying each and every year.
     
  9. subtle_black

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    Not that sensuality and sex cannot be equated with spirituality, but the minute you start talking about sex as an Industry, that's when sex becomes an imbalance of power and rights, a struggle, an oppression. the big people at the top takes most of the earnings, while the small fish take crumbs. that's the industry. nothing spiritual about it.


    you got families selling off their kids in 3rd world countries as prostitutes just to survive, or pay a debt or whatever. nothing spiritual about it.

    only when the so-called Industry, gives everyone a choice about the matter, that's when you have fair industry.

    as for me, sex should be something enjoyed as a privelege, not as a commodity.
     
  10. dirtydog

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    Good point. Money doesn't talk, it swears. In fact, I think if I ever do pay for sex again, which I doubt, probably I won't be able to get it on, precisely because of the payment. If I can't get in the lady's good graces on the basis of my own charming personality, I don't deserve to get there at all, period.
     
  11. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    Yes, I've had jobs I haven't liked, but never a job I was forced, trafficed, or felt degraded doing so. Neither have any of my jobs that I didn't really care for have been a real risk to my health. I'm sorry, oppression is not bullshit, and oppression does exist in most realms of the sex industry.
     
  12. dirtydog

    dirtydog Banned

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    When I think back some years ago, the last times I paid for a woman there was some variety involved. There were some women who clearly wanted to be somewhere else, and some who not only liked doing it with me, but reached enthusiastic climaxes, as did I. So it's difficult to make blanket statements.

    Supposing I did want to do this again, I'd want to go for the more expensive lady, one who values herself, doesn't do gutter talk, doesn't steal, and is not in a hurry to do the deed and split, or charge extra for a different position. Likewise, the girl wants to know that I'm not going to turn violent on her, rob her, or ask for some kind of degrading action. So, some screening should happen on both sides, since as we all know there are service users and service providers who show a lack of respect.
     
  13. MaximusXXX

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    Prostitution has existed since sex was found to be pleasurable, it's never going to go away, might as well make money off of it.
     
  14. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    It's not the idea of selling one's body that I'm opposed to but the oppression that comes with it. CHILDREN are being sold as sex slaves. Women & even men prostitutes are often times are addicted to hard drugs. It's not a safe trade and they are offered no safety protection. Continuing on, std's are spreading like wild fire. Just because something is hard to deal with, saying fuck it it's never going to stop is not a solution at hand.
     
  15. Elijah

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    actually, in countries where the sex industry is legitimised. particularly prostitution they've been known to have surprisingly lower std rates than places that look at it as some sort of tabboo. this would be because of the constant health checks of the sex workers that are mandated by the state. if you need proof of this just look to the netherlands. they also have a reputation for very low rates of teen pregnancy. in the middle ages in france the roman catholic church was even known to run brothels. they looked at it like this. though it is sinful it needs some sort of outlet for it to be dealt with properly. condemning these people and telling them how horrible they and their life style choices are does nothing good for anyone. no support for the prostitutes themselves? obviously you've never heard of the moonlight bunny ranch in nevada. history has shown time and time again that harm reduction is the way to go when dealing with the slew of social issues that people are confronted with on a daily basis. besides, people who are not prostitutes get killed by murderers and serial killers everyday of the week. i highly doubt that even if prostitution suddenly dissapeared off the face of the planet that serial killers or sexually transmitted diseases would disappear too. so no, the problem wouldn't necessarily become tenfold. and don't give us your so called attempt at expressing morality. you nor i are any better than these people. wether they be the hookers, the johns or the pimps. i have an idea, let's all boycott the automotive industry because of the alloeged link to cars and global warming. not to mention the countless traffic accidents and fatalities that happen everyday. sure the world is far from a pretty place. but why sugarcoat it just so you and a bunch of other so called morallyu upright people can sleep better at night?
     
  16. MaximusXXX

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    Main reason why prostitution creates problems is because it's not legal, in countries where it is legal the bussiness is treated as a bussiness, the workers are tested, the wages are much better and the prostitutes are protected, countries such as the Dominican Rep, Germany and Switzerland.
     
  17. Frieden

    Frieden Senior Member

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    Is this directed towards me? Because if you had read any of my posts, I do not judge prostitutes, think I'm above anybody, nor do I not support them . The industry on the other hand, is what is lacking in support. You don't seem to understand the support I do have for them. Whereas I believe supporting the industry, as a whole, is doing nothing to support these prostitues

    As for you saying if there were no prostitues murderers and serial rapists would go on a killing spree? Ok first off, it's ok for murderers to prostitues? Is that what you are saying? Let me tell you, that is absolutely not okay whatsoever. Besides that, if you knew much about serial killers you would realize most have patterns and victims "types", so I wouldn't be quick to jump on the bandwagon and say there would be more murders if it wasn't for prostitution. And let me ask you another question, do you think the majority of the people paying for sex would commit rape is prostitution didn't exist? Becase that's what I'm understanding from what you said. Just curious as to what credentials can back up either of those bold statements?

    Moving ahead, even if prostitution WAS legalized here in the U.S. or countries alike, there would still be illegal activity happening within the industry, which is what I'm opposed to. I will NEVER support children sex operations, forced prostitution, etc and that is HUGE factor in today's prostitution industry. None of those things will go away with legalzing prostiution and that is what frightens me about prostitution.
     
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