REAL Marijuana subsitutes, brought to you by smokindude and Erowid

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Heimia_salicifolia.shtml

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Calea_zacatechichi.shtml

And heres the clincher....http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=35444


You can get all these from http://iamshaman.com/


My bro just ordered all of these that came out to about $60. Ill let ya know whats up soon as possible.


Thanks me later

 

So extract, let hard, and smoke the licifolia? Do you know anyone thats tried it? sounds interesting enough let me know what it is ho?

 

i'm interested to see how this turns out let us know!

 

Ah, I've only tried Sinicuichi twice; the first time I measured incorrectly (dam the US for not using SI), which left me with an amount relatively close in measure, both of which gave me a little relaxation but not much else, I'd still like to try it again, though. The only legal substitute I've had very positive reactions with is Kratom; it's a little more expensive but it's worth it IMO.

 

Calea looks pretty sweet... I'm gonna look into getting some. Thanks

 

Np. Enjoy. All of it should be here on Thursday, ill report the SECOND im sober. Hopefully ill get a nice buzz. But def count on a thread in the stoner lounge sometime this week.

 

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?A=Search&S1=150&S2=-1&S3=-1&C1=-1&S4=-1&GenderSelect=-1&Context=-1&DoseMethodID=6&Title=&AuthorSearch=&A1=-1&Lang=&Group=-1&Str=

Me and my bro are gonna put the extract on a blunt too, i cant wait.



http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=35444

^^ That just made my mouth drop. Litterally.

 

I've tried all of those. None are substitutes and don't come close to a weed high. You wasted a lot of money my friend. Sinicuichi just makes you a bit mellower, nothing like weed really. Calea did almost the same thing with a little bit of a stupefying effect, still not like weed. You do know that the "herbal alternatives" are made with the shit you posted? There's no difference, they're just amalgms of the different herbs you posted.

Sorry, but if you are an experienced pothead you will be saddened. I hope your buddy likes losing 60 bucks.... cuz he just did!!! haha

 

The reports on erowid are subjective experiences at best, and downright bs at worst (some people do lie for attention y'ken?). They are not the gods' honest truth, always take them with a pinch of salt.

 

i stick with ma weed, though other things look fun. no real substitute for my lovely mary!

 

lol, pathetic substitues dude. I've tried Calea Z, it's used to induce dreaming, which it does do. But make you feel anywhere near high? Naw.... Have fun with them though.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/leonotis_leonurus/leonotis_leonurus.shtml
This would be your best bet for effects like pot, well... weak pot, but it's alright stuff.

 

How can you say those are pathetic? Have you read the expiriences? Doesnt look like it.

 

Yeah, I don't think he means it makes you feel like weed when he said substitutes, just some herbs that "supposedly" give a similar high along with a new experience. But from what I've read they have mostly been used to things like dreaming (which is why I'm getting some Calea).

 

ya dude thats sounds tight as shit. how do u get the shit past ur parents wen it arrives btw? or how do u deal with the whole shipping thing for that matter?

 

You can send them cash in an envelope with a contract saying your 18 and stuff... do your parents open your mail or something?

 

Bah, don't waste your time on Lion's Tail. I used to grow 'em and have smoked so much of it without more than a slight mellow. The plants themselves do look awesome though, which is why I grew them in the first place.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
This is the only legal alternative I would reccomend; it's not quite a substitute as it has different effects all together which makes it a very nice alternative or compliment.

 

Well my bro is honest with my mom, he told her everything about how it was legal and hes just expirimenting and its most likely a 1 time thing. He gave her the cash and she put it in the credit card. So i guess everything should work out fine, im just worried if this shit will work or not, i hope so.

 

salvia is where its at although its really expensive and its effects are not like marijuana but It's legal and it makes you hallucinate

 

Salvia's in the process of becoming illegal so stock up now.

 

I've always heard that it's becoming illegal... but it never becomes illegal.

Don't get me wrong, I like salvia alot... it's just ridiculously expensive and short.

It's nice to smoke when I go for a hike. Sometimes I'll mix up some bud to make the 10x smoother.