I would like to report what happened during a hawaiian baby woodrose encounter. I bought HBWR from 3 different reputable online vendors and tried to do a sublingual with them ground up etc. and nothing happened with each vendor. I thought that all the HBWR out there are totally bunk. I tried sublingual with 25 or even 50 seeds on different days and nothing ever happened. I figured that maybe they were so week that I should try an extraction and that might help it come out. I did an extraction with about 25 to 50 HBWR and got a brown almost crystal like powder. I tried to take a small ball of this and do a sublingual with that. It tasted very bad. After a few tries I thought noticed I swallowed an ever so tiny amount of the liquid before I spit it out the last time. I had no intention of swallowing it. It tasted horrible and I waited with it in my mouth there for an hour and nothing happened during that time or another hour after. So I decided to go to bed.... Suddenly, I awoke at 4AM with intense I mean INTENSE fear and extreme nausea. One of the worst feelings in my life. Very intense and worried I might have overdosed myself because I had tried using more and more when it didn't do anything. I may have put upwards of 25 extracted seeds in my mouth. I only did this because I had put that many before many times and it never did anything at all, and I incremented carefully from the base normal dose. I think I felt mostly fear because of the pain of the nausea. There were no positive effects at all and nothing psychoactive except maybe the fact that I was scared and unable to make up my mind. It was just overwhelming. Much more than from alcohol nausea. Probably 5 or 10 times the feeling of nausea. I could not decide what to do. I felt like I had to barf worse than ever in my life, except I was not doing it automatically, so I had to force myself. Even then it was not totaly gone. THankfully after a few hours I was able to sleep and when I woke up I think I was fine again. I checked my circulation during the event and it was fine. No numbness and no color change, no cold limbs. So none of that. Just bad stomach. I don't know what happened. For some reason the sublingual seems to not have worked, but I was able to get very sick by getting a drop of the extract (should have been clean) down me I think. Something caused it. Maybe the seeds I got have all the good stuff gone and only the bad stuff left and the bad stuff can't be absorbed sublingually, the whole point of sublingual HBWR. What happened and how was I able to have a few hours of pain and never anything good and never got sublingual to work? A very bad experience. All this because I was looking for an alcohol alternative that doesn't harm your body as much but is still legal. A very hard combination to find given all the safer than alcohol stuff is illegal. Is is logical to make half a shot of liquor illegal and full shot legal. Same principle.
I found crushing the seeds, letting them soak in water a few hours, then drinking the water (After straining and discarding the crushed seed matter) works best. No nausea, and I had a pleasent trip.
That is great. That doesn't seem to work for a lot of people. Have you only gotten this to work once? Did you scrape the shell coating off? Did you use any weed? How many did you use? Did you strain using a coffee filter? Did you squeeze the filter or let it flow through only on its own? Did you add any lemon juice to acidify the solution? Have you ever had a problem? thanks.
I think about 4 is right. I would use the normal amount there is enough info on erowid for me to follow for that. That was not my problem.
The first time I tried that method, I used 12, one friend used 11, and one used 10, crushed up. Let it sit for a few hours, used coffee filters to strain it. For the most part, I let it flow through on its own. Also yes, I had weed as well. The second time I used 20 seeds and it worked again. IMO LSA is never going to give you this far out visual trip, but to me it is very pleasent (the body high), and it seems there is great mental clarity with it. Don't get me wrong you may see slight visual hallucinations, such as maybe shifting and enhanced colors but it doesn't go much further than that. I just love the mental clarity it gives me, making it fun to talk with friends, write, ect. Also listening to music is very enjoyable. I say give the crushing and straining method a try, and if that doesn't work I dont know what to say.
I'm not worried about not getting an effect so much as I'm worried about getting really sick. I don't have any weed so there is no way for me to take care of the sickness. If you had weed you might not have noticed the sickness if you got some. I have ethenol (grain alcohol) which might work better than cold water. I don't know, I don't really want to drink alcohol, because if I get sick alcohol will probably make it worse.
well when I simply ate them, even with weed the nausea was bad. With this method there wasn't even the slightest feeling that I may begin to feel sick, but yeah weed is def. a good thing to have while tripping IMO to enhance the experience. And I got mine from Iamshaman, deadhead..
Well if a few hours worked for you then that is good. I read that the more hours you leave it the more likely it will contain bad stuff. But, one place actually says to leave it for 24 hours. There are so many conflicting reports. They also suggest using pantyhose to strain it. But using water that is kept cold and distilled (not tap water) is all for certain needed. Four appears to be one dose, doesn't say anything about weight. I don't weigh very much at all though.
