Gas prices going up again.

Discussion in 'Consumer Advocacy' started by gardener, Nov 20, 2006.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Yeah, and we installed the "governator".
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Guess what stock he owns?
     
  3. retrow

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    Seems like that Governator is having a change of hearts - he's going pretty liberal on a lots of issues. Heck, I heard they were trying out the idea about paid sick-leave in some place in California, I'm guessing its SF. In fact your governator is so liberal, that in Texas he might be called an anarchist commie.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    He's not all that liberal, in fact what he is proposing as far as health insurance has to do more with filling the coffers of the insurance companies than providing low cost insurance for all. Paid sick leave is something that most responsible companies already provide. Wise up folks and don't buy into the sound bites. This is going to mandate that everyone buy insurance. Who's going to pay for the homeless, who is going to guarrantee that the poor have the same level of coverage as every one else? Ask for the details. On the surface this only guarrantees that the insurance companies have a captive market.

    When you have trouble paying your utility bills, how are you going to afford mandated health insurance? What do you give up now...food? As it is now in order to drive a vehicle you have to smog and insure it. Now we have to do that for ourselves and our children also before we pay our other bills.
     
  5. retrow

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    Not a big fan of governator myself, but he just seems a lil better than most of the governors out there. Anyway, back to the topic of fuel costs. I think its about time that we stop play cat and mouse with the oil corporations. Best thing to do would be to give them the finger and declare independence from oil altogether. And if any state has technological capacity to put non-conventional ideas into working products, its California.
     
  6. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I agree "Retrow", and I only drive when and where I have to in order to get to a job.
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Responsible car owners in California not only have to insure their own vehicles but they have to buy uninsured motorist insurance. Who won that battle...the insurance companies. We were promised lower rates, California vehicle insurance rates are some of the highest in the nation.
     
  8. kiljoy

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    It's amazing how standards have changed, I see $2.16 now and think "wow, that's cheap!"
     
  9. ippi

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    Well i think that if the gas price goes up it is good thing because i hope it will make someone to drive less...
     
  10. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Its called single payer. Very soon you and I will be buying health insurance
    for these folks also.
     
  11. tooniceguy

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    living in the land of the $9 gallon, i'm afraid i can tell you... it doesn't

    you cant move for SUV's here, and it can cost well over $200 to fill one up. all that happens with ever rising gas prices is it drives up inflation, because the gorceries cost more to get to the store, more to produce etc.

    ironicly one of the big loosers in this is things like organic farm produce, as their produce is more expensive anyway, people buying it tend to stop as gas prices rise, because they can buy non organic items cheaper, and the price difference offsets their increasing fuel bills.

    people will only be squeezed so far..
     
  12. shaggie

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    Crude heading toward $100 per barrel.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119301268779266516.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    Options Bets on Crude Could Pull Prices Higher


    By Matt Chambers
    Word Count: 359
    The wagering over $100 oil has begun in earnest.

    Oil prices, which rose briefly above $90 a barrel Friday, are more likely to head toward $100 than $80 in the next month, according to the number of bets placed by options traders on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

    The large number of options held to buy crude at $100 a barrel could also act as a pull on prices toward that level.


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  13. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Oil is underpriced as it is.
     
  14. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Crude was around $10 a barrel not long after 911. I don't remember the exact time, but there was a glut for a short while. There was a glut back around 1986 also.

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  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Hey we'll have to wait for Iran to be attacked before we see the prices drop:
    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=13829
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/210907_about_oil.htm





    You want to believe we fight Islamic Facism...I've got a bridge I can sell you.​
     
  16. dollydagger

    dollydagger Needle to the Groove

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    If I may be so inclined as to add something to a quote from ol' ben franklin:

    There are three, not just two, things in life that are certain: death, taxes, and rising gas prices.
     
  17. Salsabil3

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    Pay For What You Do To This Planet!!!! Jeez
     
  18. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    People are still missing the point that the fact that there is a limited supply of oil is an externality which is not built into the cost; if it were, oil would be more expensive than it is now.

    Somehow the idea of getting cheap oil until we run out seems like more of an inconvenience than using less now and spending more money on alternative research.
     
  19. shaggie

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    The politicians have a solution to all of this. Extend daylight savings time by a couple weeks. :)

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  20. tooniceguy

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    and ya know what, even at $10 a gallon where we are now, it doesn't change peoples attitudes or driving styles.... hiking gas prices, and taxing vehicles doesn't work.. provinding a WORKING public transport infrastructure does.. but you cant tax that...
     

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