In you're opinion, which of these drugs causes the most brain damage?

Discussion in 'Drug Polls' started by ssj3gotenks, Oct 12, 2005.

  1. digital 3.0

    digital 3.0 Member

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    Life is the biggest trip of all, drugs in general are fucked up, so are car accidents, tramas, drama, stress and smoking, being sick, medication, hospitals and street life in general.

    X doesn't cause holes in your brain
    DXM who really know
    Alcohol withdrawls can kill you
    Opioids can stop your breathing and heart
    Meth can make you test your endurance and make you think your so super until you find out your just about dead
    LSD can do all kinds of stupid shit, and send you into an emotional barricade from reality for a long time

    Were all on different levels, spiritually mentally, emotionally, physically
    What can I really say, lifes a trip, and when you trip inside of life it makes the world spin a different way. Good or bad, or even if theres such a thing I would say that personally deep down drugs are a spiritual thing.
     
  2. sugarmagnolia590

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    i think crack kills your brain more because some people that are on crack really cant think right and when they dont have any they get all weird and shit
     
  3. mushie18

    mushie18 Intergalactic

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    well said.
     
  4. PurpleGel

    PurpleGel Senior Member

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    MDMA: actually, MDMA does damage your brain. taking a few doses is fine (much like anything in moderation), but chronic, heavy X users have very significant cognitive problems involving, but not limited to, problems with decision making, decreased attention, increased impulsivity, paranoia, etc.

    someone mentioned that the studies on MDMA are bullshit, but this is not the case in 2006. X is believed to cause most of its damage by the selective degeneration of serotonin axons, nerve terminals, and reuptake transporter proteins (especially in the cerebral cortex and hippocampus). you can google this stuff and find your own references (i don't have my articles and texts on me right now).

    COKE/METH: all of the amphetamine-type drugs (meth, cocaine, etc) cause brain damage after repeated, especially heavy, use. cocaine and crack are not as different as people have made them out to be in the polls; it's a matter of snorting versus smoking the drug... anyway, everyone has heard of amphetamine-induced psychosis. it's real.

    ALCOHOL: alcohol causes brain damage, especially in heavy, chronic use. however, i would say that it causes brain damage on every use, since it obviously depresses neurons to the point of death and it handicaps hippocampal neurogenesis (basically, new neurons are born dysfunctional and remain dysfunctional after their migration).

    OPIATES: i've never read about them causing brain damage. i agree with nesta and 2cesarewild. opiates can do lots of horrible things to you in certain circumstances, but this thread is about brain damage, not addiction, withdrawal, or overdosing.

    WEED: i can't believe someone chose weed as the drug that causes the most brain damage. this is just a result of misinformation or simple ignorance. weed is the safest drug on the list.

    i don't know a lot about inhalants but i know they're harmful. doing them is obviously stupid. including nitrous oxide in this category, however, is not really fair. nitrous is not the same as freon or industrial solvents. nitrous, as far as i know, is relatively safe, at least in mild/moderate administration like at the dentist's office. the only problem is when taking nitrous in large doses to get a strong 30-second high. some people may not take in enough oxygen, which can be damaging to the brain. but that's not the nitrous--that's the user. it does affect B-12, but i don't think this is significant unless you're getting high on nitrous everyday.

    over all, i think the poll is on the right track: meth, cocaine/crack, and alcohol are the highest, excluding the inhalants category which is unclear.

    peace.
     
  5. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    cocaine and meth alter brain chemistry but don't necessarily "damage" the brain with even moderate use.
    *nods @ StonerBill* Inhalants are solvents, and do more damage, especially the fat soluble, non-polar ones like toluene and benzene. alcohol is also a solvent, which has been shown through PET/CAT scans to shrink the brain inward (the outer part of the brain is GABA-laden, which ethanol modulates), but this occurs after years of heavy use.

    MDMA has been shown to erode axon sheaths by oxidation, but no holes in the brain. Even the "olney Lesion" hypothesis of dissociatives like PCP, DXM, and Ketamine is inconclusive.

    the really damaging drug isn't listed, it's MPTP; a very neurotoxic by-product of incomplete meperidine synthesis. One dose may be enough to produce irreversible parkinsonian-like symptoms; it actually kills dopamine receptors by free-radical oxidation.

    out of the ones listed, inhalants for sure. nitrous oxide shouldn't even be listed as an inhalant, it's relatively benign in comparison.
     
  6. MeatWagon499

    MeatWagon499 Senior Member

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    meth, then crack, then coke, then dxm, then X,

    acid does not cause brain damage whoever voted acid is a dumb mother fucker

    nitrous is the only inhalant that does not cause brain damage, how funny
    but all the other ones fuck you up hardcore

    chemicals man, they'll FUCK you up
     
  7. WanderingSoul

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    Pot does NOT kill brain cells. That is a myth. Pot makes you smarter. Even though it messes up your short term memory, it makes your long term better. It can even dredge up old memories. A new study shows that it makes your long term function longer, which prevents alzheimers. It does not contain the same carcinogens and tars as tobacco. That's a lie, too. Smoking it is actually good for your lungs, and it helps asthmatics breathe better. Let's just face it: pot is GOOD for you. It's like medicine that makes you feel good. Stick with pot. It's just healthier.
     
  8. PurpleGel

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    careful; that appeal is a bit misrepresented....
     
  9. WanderingSoul

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    What do you mean? I have no idea what you're talking about.
     
  10. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    inhalents then meth.
     
  11. Eeso

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    Polymer hit on this in his last post.
    In the context of the question - how do you define "damage"?
    Remember that we're talking specifically about damage to the brain as an organ. Not damage to a persons psyce.

    And as someone else said - it's not really a matter of opinion, it's about science and evidence.

    There's alot of bullshit floating around this thread sadly, though I must say there's a few here that have their science hats on.
    kudos
     
  12. Shaman420

    Shaman420 Herbalist

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    Damage to your brain: inhalents minus nitrous oxide are the worst. That is a fact. The high you get from huffing is your brain cells being slaughtered.

    2nd worst... amphetamines.. in comparison to everything else there is too much of a toll on your body specifically your brain because of the side affects alone (chronic insomnia, poor appetite, etc.) much less the fact that most amphetamines are nuerotoxins.
     
  13. Eeso

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    Yea inhalants are probably on the top of 'the list'

    But not all amphetamines have been shown to be neurotoxic, and said neurotoxic effects have been shown to be in most cases at least partially reversible.
     
  14. WanderingSoul

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    I agree
     
  15. Duck

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    I would say meth and inhalants

    but it's hard to say, it's all so variable
    how much do you use? how often?

    hard to compare fairly
     
  16. Duck

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    whoever said weed needs smacked
     
  17. MeatWagon499

    MeatWagon499 Senior Member

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    fuck i did meth last night :(
     
  18. UXnIHAOnUXbmUXn

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    meth and alcohol do the most direct damage IMO.

    cocaine and ecstasy can also fuck up your head if you stay on them for an extended period.
     
  19. moe.ron

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    e in no way shape or form will ever put a hole in someones brain..ignorance about drugs really pisses me off..but anyways yea probably inhalents..i mean cleaning solvents wtf! no one gets high off of them, all they do is cut off the oxygen to your brain.DXM and meth are really bad too
     
  20. Echelon

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    Jimson weed is bad, but that wasn't a choice so I picked "nitrous oxide (inhalants)". And to all the people that picked DXM, where's the evidence that it fucks up your brain? Many of my friends and I have done massive amounts of DXM and we didn't end up like Terri Schiavo.
     

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