I couldn't get through this whole thread, but tried to get a good sampling of what it was all about. I agree I think those that are insecure with a woman being the agressor just has not quite grown up in the area male-female relationships. It is not an either or question, it is what will work for the situation. Bold confident women are defnitely sexy, now I am saying confident not obnoxious. One thing I find more in women my age and older is a confidence that says "I have been through it and I know what I want". A woman who likes to play fun sexy games with my mind, not decietful ones. I guess my point is when I was younger the dating experiencing was full of senseless game playing. It wasn't like we were trying to build up sexual tension, it was more like a dominant-submissive thing. I say lets get to it, enjoy eachother, have the spiritual-mental-physical thing going and not waste time trying to feed the ego
There's nothing wrong in girls making the first move, but i've notised that lately there are many guys who don't aproche the girls just because they feel better when the girl aproches them. It's lame
in today's society with sexual harrassment, etc., most guys are afraid to do the asking out - women's lib has really put a hurtin on the chick being courted and pursued, bummer... also, on a planet where women outnumber men, it's sorta put chicks in a situation to have to fight for what they want and hold onto it tightly mmmmm, i like the holding onto it tightly bit, hehehe
Nothing wrong with a girl asking a guy out. After all she can always make it look like "just friends" if shes afraid of rejection. Girls tend to have better instincts re attraction than guys alot of the time too.
i think more often then not it should be left to the girl a guy gets horny enough he'll ask out every girel he sees on the street if the guys lookin hes lookin, he was lookin at some1 else a minute before trust me..hes interested but being shot down over and over to get lucky 1 outtasa every 30 tries gets lame...hes hopin for a sing ya are into him too 1st before takin the risk just walk up and say hi and the resyt will just fall into place it really dont matter who makes the mocve as long as some1 does.. but since most fairly decent lookin girls get hit on so often guys initiating can be kinda useless since girls tend to ignore 9 outta 10 come ons but when the girl makes the move its 99% effective
I think saying because a guy doesn't ask you out, he doesn't like you is completely wrong. I'm a really shy guy and sometimes I just can't get up the nerve to ask the girl out. Most of my relationships have just kind of turned into me dating that person without asking them out. It usually starts in one or the other asking about what they consider the relationship, without just straight up asking the person out. I need to learn to become more assertive, though.
I'm to much of a pussy to ask anyone out lol, I get nervous and sweaty and shaky... Cant even keep to what I think to say, I guess thats why I dont get to eat at the Y.
Well i see no reason why a girl cant ask a guy out. I was always taught that men should make the first move / etc but thats just my old fashioned ways. Why should gender had any hold on whether or not someone goes after what they want?
being that I'm into really egalitarian relationships, I think it's just as much the girl's obligation as the guy's to initiate conversation, pick-ups, and dates. Gender roles really fucking bother me.
i think if a guy had a problem with me being the one to ask, it would mean he was hopelessly old fashioned, cemented into a gender role & inflexible...which would mean we prolly wouldn't get along. :tongue:
I think the older a female gets the more down she is for asking a guy out, I have only been asked out by one young lady that I can think of and she basically just wanted to fuck. That is the main reason why I think to ask a female out as well, in my last relationship I wished that had been the case, just fuck some and be friends, but attachment seems to follow me around like a bad habit, I must break it. I am going to start saying some straightfoward things to females and see where that takes me.
yeah, I've noticed the older ladies are far more cool about asking a guy out than the younger set. The younger girls usually only ask (USUALLY) if they're making fun of you want sex want someone to 'take care of rent' more mature ladies tend to know more about what they want, and that is sexy.
I'm glad, hun. I might not be on so much today, I've had to deal with stupid people and drama....ugh. And yes, women that know what they want and can let us guys know, (without being she-hulk aggressive about it especially) are very sexy.