I'm actually thinking this thread is most likely a joke, because it contained a few things that someone with a clear and respectful view of others, of sexuality and of personal space would not say. However, just in case it's not, I'm going to reply anyway. First off, a girl is never oblidged to have sex with you, PERIOD. She is allowed to say "yes", and then change her mind 20 minutes, 5 minutes, 5 SECONDS before you enter her. She can even change her mind while you're inside. NO means just that - NO. And STOP means STOP. Sexuality is personal and a gift to be given - not an obligation, not matter what was said or indicated beforehand. Simply because it frustrates you is no reason that she must continue if she does not want to. Second point: you seem to have a strange and somewhat naieve view of sexual health and pregnancy. It is not something to be messed about with. Having sex without a condom is plain stupid (with the possible exception of being in a monogamous relationship, long-term where both partners have been tested for STDs and are prepared to deal with pregnancy). A person can have an STD and not know it - you could catch something from her, or vice versa. If you care for her, and yourself, you will not even risk it. A slight increase in feeling of sexual pleasure on your penis from having sex without a condom would NOT be worth it to you. Thirdly, if she did get pregnant, you would not nececerally have a connexion for the rest of your lives. She may get an abortion, or get the baby adopted. She will probably be extremley hurt and not want anything to do with you. Adding a baby into a girl's life does not automatically equal happily ever after. Oftern quite the opposite, especially when she is not read for it. Fourth issue: the masturbating. Although I find it odd that you would want to do that with your brother, and somewhat sickening, I have no problem with incest *in principle*. HOWEVER I disagree with some of the things you said surrounding the issue. You said: My other options were to do it in our one bathroom, that doesn't have a lock on the door, and possibly be walked in on by my sister, or parents. Or in the living room, where the rest of the family was watching TV, or in my room with my brother watching. Not a whole lot of options in a tiny little house. I blame her more than anything, because she was the one who put me in that position in the first place, and didn't finish what she started. However, you didn't mention one other option - to NOT masturbate at all! Are you really that much of a slave to your hormones that you couldn't just go to sleep? I doubt it. I also say it was NOT her fault at all, she was simply being intimate with you up to the level she was comfortable with. Also, I don't believe your first post, where you said your brother noticed you bing semi-erect. Any guy, even with a full-on hard-on can hide it. And lastly, I find it somewhat fishy that you share a room with your brother at age 21. Two brothers / friends about the same age masturbating together when they've just hit puberty and are curious (age 12 maybe) is one thing. But at age 21...it just seems suspicious. As I said, i really believe the original post to be a joke. However, if it's not I would say that at the least the poster should examine his selfishness. All he seems to care about in this case is getting off. He thought he was entitled to sex, but wouldn't use a condom because it might upset HIS pleasure and HE was afraid to lose his girlfriend and wanted to manipulate her into some lifelong partnership with him that she couldn't escape from by getting her pregnant. He thought that his sexual frustration was just SO important that he HAD to mastubate. That IS immature, and you will notice all his posts are about himself, how badly HE feels...not one question about "I upset the girl I care about and I want to make her feel better". NO! It's all about him and his sexual frustration, his wants and desires. I'm thinking this guy doesn't have the maturity to be in a serious, sexual relationship - or really any kind of relationship. Not until he learns to communicate, listen and put his sexual desires to one side. Not until he learns to think with his brain rather than his dick. Because although he claims to be 21, that's no indication of maturity. His post proves that point, because the egotistical nature of what he said reads like it was written by a selfish 10-year old brat having a temper tantrum because he didn't get into some girl's pants. And no offence to 10-year olds - I know several who would show yards more maturity than this guy!!
And another option would've been to ask your brother to exit the room for a few minutes so you could take care of yourself in private. Throw him a couple bucks and tell him to go to the store and treat himself to chips or something, it doesn't really matter, it's not that hard to ask for a few minutes of privacy rather than whipping it out infront of him.
Wow dude. That shit is sick. First off, I understand it's not your fault you have to share a room with your brother. I also understand you guys are close. But masterbating together!? I mean the line has to be drawn somewhere as to how close you are. Seriously, you couldn't just go without? Especially if you knew she watched through the window. And getting her pregnant just to have a connection isn't cool either. It seems to me that you are very lonley and long to connect with someone, anyone because you need to feel wanted or needed by somebody. My best advice is to get a psychiatrist, and talk to them. There's no shame in talking to a psychiatrist, I mean that's what they are paid for.
you know that long-standing male fantasy to have a couple of hot twins to screw at the same time? isn't that incest as well?
I'm sure what the big deal is, its certainly not a turn on for me, but if two brothers want to get together, what does it really matter, its not like it effects anyone else but them S
no but if two adult guys diecided they wanted to do it, who's it hurting? think about it thye could be doing a whole lot worse S
Any way you put it getting yourself off with any blood relative is just wrong. Nope could even emagine someone doing it. Too nasty.
You guys are being pretty hard on this kid, I'm sayin don't worry about it, what's this girl doing watchin through your window anyway, that sounds a little creepy to me.
Well I'm glad to see someone isn't harsh about it. Its not like I can control the urges I have. And she has been watching me through my window for years, as I've been watching her through hers. We both know it. I just sorta forgot about it that night, maybe accidentally, or maybe on purpose, I'm not sure. I mean I knew she would see, but in the heat of the moment, it just slipped my mind. No biggie. Her and I are talking again, and she has even mentioned something about going on the pill so I wouldn't have to use a condom, which I explained my feelings about to her. What was really kinda bad though was she kinda hinted around about getting my brother involved, not me and him having sex, but her letting us take turns with her, or even at the same time. I'm not so sure about this, and I'm not sure what he would say either. I think its really weird, but if its what it takes to get her, it might be my only option.
Okay, now I'm thinking this post is DEFINATELY a joke. He seems to be ignoring any sense anyone says and just throwing in more comments to get people riled up. I for one am voting we ignore this idiot...seems like the same kind of spam that someone posteda while back when they asked "theoretically, is it wrong to rape someone if they are asleep and don't know?". It's just attention seeking bullshit. I bet it's posted by some sad person with no friends, no life and nothing to do but vye for attention by pissing people off over the internet.