Medics want obesity warnings on clothing...

I made that kind of comment as an exaggeration... I know that the lables aren't going to say that, they'll have warnings and a hotline number.

I wear a size twelve depending on who makes it which is the US size said to be the start of the obesity lables on clothing. Yes, I will admit, I could be trimmer, but I mainly wear that size because I have large hips... it's not the fat or muscle, it is literally bone, there is no diet in the world that can take that away.

I don't eat processed foods that much, if at all... I'd say I eat any kind of processed food maybe 1-4 times a month if that.


You see, not everyone has the same body type as you do, some of us just literally were not made to fit into a size 2 past our 15th birthday.

Just a thought.... can you come up with a list of reasons that this would be a good thing? It might have more of an impact than just bashing people, a lot who have either tried to loose weight or just have a different body type than you do.

 

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"Something that is for my own good". Just because someone wishes me well does not mean that they have any buisness inspecting my life and pointing out my faults (for my own good). "It's for your own good" is something that parents tell children not what adults tell each other. (Unless one of them is an infernal busybody.)

I notice that nobody is saying "Boy, I'm overweight and those lables would help me." I do notice that there are those who say "Those fat people need to be reminded that they are unhealthy." Even if they don't know that their weight is unhealthy, ITS NONE OF OUR BUISNESS.

These lables are just another way (a gentle way) for those who want to control other's lives to express that desire. Free adults are adults; they are also free, which includes the freedom to make mistakes. The claim "it's for their own good" does not make it my buisness.

 

holy fucking shit....

i never said size 12 was obese... so stop with that crap. i dont think size 12 is obese at all..

Obesity is not a simple condition of eating too much. It is now recognized that obesity is a serious, chronic disease. No human condition — not race, religion, gender, ethnicity or disease state — compares to obesity in prevalence and prejudice, mortality and morbidity, sickness and stigma.

On April 2, 2002, the IRS announced a new policy (IRS Ruling 202-19) stating that "Obesity is medically accepted to be a disease in its own right." For taxpayers, this means that treatment specifically for obesity can now be claimed as a medical deduction

If you are obese, you may be entitled to disability payments from the Social Security Administration (SSA). According to the SSA, $77 million are paid monthly to approximately 137,000 persons who met obesity requirements for disability

The AOA defends the rights of disabled persons with obesity, because obesity:

is a disease.
is the second leading cause of premature death.
can cause many health conditions such as diabetes and coronary heart disease.
is a source of stigmatization and discrimination.
can lead to a poor quality of life and impaired mobility.
can cause physical and emotional pain that can be disabling.


OK PPL CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!!!!!!

STOP TALKING ABOUT BEING OVER WEIGHT... THERE NOTHING FUCKING WRONG WITH IT. AGAIN... YOUR CLOTHES WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUCKING LABEL BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.

OBESITY IS SOMETHING SERIOUS, IS NOT JUST ABOUT CLOTHES AND HAVING CURVES!!!! IS A DISEASE... SO STOP DEFENDING OBESITY AS A BODY TYPE AND A LIFESTYLE BECAUSE IS NOT!!!!!!

 

omg noooooooooooooooooooooo

i did not intended to bash anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and would it had been different if i wasn't skinny?

would that make any difference??????????

read my other post

 

i totally understand what u r saying. i can't care less about the labels. But obesity is a disease.... over weight is different than obesity!!!!!!!

anorexic ppl say the same thing.. is none of your business what i do.. i am free .... obesity is in the verge of being more deadly that cigarettes!

 

i read all of your posts about me.

it is very hurtful

my intentions was never to hurt anyone.

i had been made fun of my weight all my life.

But i am concern about obesity because my uncle died due to it.

do a google search in obesity.

is very different than just plain "over weight"

 

Lifespan may be cut short by obesity.
Major insurance company boosts coverage for obesity treatment and prevention.
New government report on morbid obesity finds weight-loss surgery effective.
Health risks related to obesity improved or eliminated with bariatric surgery.
Decrease in health care costs result with bariatric surgery.
States failing to curb obesity.
New Medicare policy increases coverage for obesity treatment.
The impact of American culture on obesity.
Obesity reduces overall well-being of children.
Obesity on verge of surpassing smoking as #1 cause of preventable death.
Obesity a factor in increase of disability.



Obesity is everyones business. Just like Aids, Cancer, and any other disease. Something should be done. If you are not obese you dont know what is like. While I am not obese I lost a family member to it...

 

See, the problem is, you aren't in a thread discussing OBESITY. You are in a thread discussing "Medics wanting obesity warnings in large size clothing". If you look at the beginning of the thread, you'll see that the plan so far is to have these warnings in womens sizes, 12 and up! Putting an obesity warning in a women's size 12 is the same damn thing as saying that size is obese. And you were arguing that this is a good idea!

Your posts to this thread came across, IMHO, as very self-righteous. You have a small body type, and have never had a problem with being overweight or obese, and you act as if these weight problems are all just due to people stuffing their faces constantly. As if we are all little children who need you to teach us how to eat and exercise properly.

Personally, I am overweight. The medical industry, depending on who you ask, would even consider me "obese". I have my situation under control and am even losing weight, getting into better shape these days. But my condition is not due to laziness or overeating. It is due to hormonal and chemical imbalances in my BRAIN. No obesity hotline in the world could help me with these issues, and I would be bothered if my clothing tags made that suggestion. I do NOT overeat, and haven't in pretty much my whole damn life. And as far as McRibs, etc, go, do you know how many years it's been since many of us even ate a at Mcdonalds? I've set foot in them, probably twice in about ten years, to use their bathrooms!

 

oh and another thing... can't remmember who posted this but... the leopard swuimswuit... Summer 06 Guess. During the summer, animal print was everywhere. And during the fall season 06, I got some cute Manolo's (leopard stilettos).

But i bet Guess and manolo blahniks were wrong!

 

ok, thank you so much for getting to the point!!!!

about the size 12... that is not right. Ppl posted too much about that and it was just speculation. The labels are just a part of many many meassures against obesity.. and that was my point.

I have no idea if you or anyone else eats mc ribs... but my point was, instead of bashing so much the labels, go and bash the mc rib.

and good for you and keep up the good work.

 

anotehr thing is that ppl who is not obese or complaining about the labels because they claim they are healthy.

good for them.

but the labels are not even for them.

me personally? i dont think the labels are gonna work.. everything else that is going to be done yes, the labels.. are just a minimal part of it..

The effect media has on ppl is amazing. A combination of everything that is going to be implemented to lower the amout of ppl obese is definetly going to make a difference.

 

Larger-size clothes should come with warning to lose weight, say experts
Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor



Clothes made in larger sizes should carry a tag with an obesity helpline number, health specialists have suggested. Sweets and snacks should not be permitted near checkouts, new roads should not be built unless they include cycle lanes and food likely to make people fat should be taxed, they say in a checklist of what we might “reasonably do” to deal with obesity.
Writing in the British Medical Journal, the team says that “pull yourself together, eat less and exercise more” is an inadequate response to obesity, voiced only by “less perceptive health professionals” and the media. What fat people need is help, advice and sympathy to overcome their addiction to food, says the group of public health professional, which includes Sir George Alberti, the Government’s national director for emergency care.



Their checklist of possible actions includes:


Printing a helpline numbers for advice
Banning the placement of sweets and fatty snacks at or near shop tills and at children’s eye level
Taxing processed foods that are high in sugar or saturated fat
Introducing health checks for all school leavers, both primary and secondary
Allowing new urban roads only if they have cycle lanes
Establishing a dedicated central agency responsible for all aspects of obesity

The report was put together by Laurence Gruer, director of public health science at NHS Health Scotland, and Sir George, who is emeritus professor of medicine at Newcastle University. The Glasgow University professors Naveed Sattar and Mike Lean also contributed to the report, which calls for wider acceptance of drugs and surgery as ways of cutting the health risks that stem from obesity.
The report concludes: “Medical practice must adapt to the current epidemic of obesity and nutrition-related diseases. The profession must unite the forces of public health and acute services to generate sustainable changes in food and lifestyles: matters at the heart of our cultural identities.

“Furthermore, training in public health medicine should urge all doctors to contribute towards bringing changes in the food industry and in the environment that will lead to a more physically active, healthier and happier population.

“As the prevalence and costs of obesity escalate, the economic argument for giving high priority to obesity and weight management through a designated co-ordinating agency will ultimately become overwhelming.The only question is, will action be taken before it is too late?”

 

And I think that there (the bolded bit) is exactly why people have reacted so strongly to what you've said in this thread.

It did come across as really self righteous, as though you're better than those of us who are overweight and would have to deal with these labels should they come into existence, as though we're morons for not exercising constantly and eating carrot sticks. No, it's not what you said word for word, but it's the tone your words carried, even over the internet.

 

all of my posts about you? beg pardon, i only had one directed towards you and another correcting an assumption about you along with my opinion of what you should have a grasp on in this point in your maturation. hurtful, eh? wow, it's amazing what unfair assumptions about people can do, dontcha think?

 

btw, i'm in a size 16 right now, i'm 5'5" with a BMI of 29.9. yeah, that's overweight, NOT OBESE. these numbers are totally arbitrary.

 

Another thing that just occurred to me - even if "they" have classified obesity as an official disease now, what difference does that really make to the millions of us who are forced to live without health care? If I can't help to pay for treatment for a staph infection, I sure as hell am not going to find help with losing 70 pounds!

Is it all going to come from the state? Maybe the new "obesity treatment" for poor people, then will just be in the form of cutting off any other help. "Oh, no, fat Mrs. Smith and her pudgy kids don't need food stamps any longer. Maybe if we starve 'em out for a few months they won't be such eyesores."

 

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A US size 12 (european 42) is the size they want to start putting the labels on. I know that at this size and sitting here at 5'9 in my 42 moschino jeans I am not obese...but that's what they want to slap a label on here in the states.

Also, even plus suzes should not have labels on them. We are all people, trying to get by, coping with life and trying to make the best out of it and ourselves. The last added stress anyone needs,d espite their size is to read a tag each morning saying they are fat.
Let's be real and humane here.