Abolition of United States Government

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  1. dirtydog

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    PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC WHEN POSTING TO THIS THREAD!

    On August 24, 1991, Mikhail Gorbachev, General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, resigned his position and advised the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the USSR to dissolve itself. On September 5, 1991, the Congress of Peoples Deputies dissolved itself. On December 17, 1991 Gorbachev agreed with Boris Yeltsin, President of the Russian Federation, to dissolve the Soviet Union. On December 25, 1991, Gorbachev resigned as President of the Supreme Soviet of the Sovet Union. On January 1, 1992, the Soviet Union was formally dissolved.

    Although there are other warlike nations, the primary warmaker and threat to world peace as at January 2007 is the United States of America. In its 217 years of existence the United States has warred against almost every Indian tribe on the territory of the present U.S. I'd hate to try and list the Iroquois nations (Seneca, Mohawk, Wyandotte), the Creeks, the Cherokee, the Sioux, Cheyanne and Blackfeet, the Iowa, Omaha, Mandan and Kiowa, the Utes and Apaches and Comanches, the Yaqui, the Flatheads and other Northwest tribes, the Hawaiians and Alaskans (who didn't really fight back). Any such list would leave out about sixty tribes worthy of mention. Please update me here.

    The United States of America has also warred against the Confederacy (1861-1865), Great Britain (1812-14), Mexico (1846), Germany (1917-18, 1941-45), the Soviet Union (1919), Japan (1941-45), Italy (1941-43), China (1950-53), North Korea (1950-53), Vietnam (1960-1973), Laos (1965-1973), Cambodia (1969-1973), Panama (1989), Guatamala (1954), Dominican Republic (1965), Spain(1898), Grenada (1983), Nicaragua and El Salvador (via proxies) 1980s, Somalia (1992), Serbia (1998), Iraq (1990-1991, 2003-2007), Afghanistan (2001-2007). Please inform me of any errors and omissions, I'd hate to leave anyone out. (I am not saying its opponents were innocent, by any means.)

    So, let's consider the fact that the dissolution of the USSR in 1991-1992 into 15 republics didn't harm world peace. So far as we know the Russian republic got all the nuclear weapons. Since the USSR dissolved, the Russians and other former Soviet repubics haven't militarily threatened a single country that I'm aware of. Russia is still committing atrocities in Chechnya, of course, but boys will be boys. They're on about a par with the American South in the 1960's, not that that's any help to Chechnyans.

    Other than the fact that nuclear weapons might be secured by states such as Mississippi and Alabama (not the brightest bulbs on the shelf) and New York, the abolition of the United States would be a net benefit to world peace. The bloodthirsty ambitions of Yankees could be checked by future wars in which they attack one another and leave the rest of the world alone.

    There won't be peace. I'm not dumb enough to think the Yanks are going throw their guns away. But the US and its armed forces should abolish themselves. After all, in 1971, through the military draft, they came close to abolishing me.
     
  2. MichaelByrd1967

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    I'm waiting for it. I've always thought that this country might collapse. This country has had the worst history out of all of them, and I really that we're already in the process of ending up like the Roman Empire.

    Frankly, I've had enough of stupid xenophobic blind American patriotism. Isn't being to proud to be a human being enough? No, it isn't. Is it? You have to build up a border between yourself and other races and countries.

    Truly, the only thing that seperates countries is land and water. We're all in this together, man.
     
  3. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    When America does collapse -- and it most definitely will if people don't take a stand and fight for their freedom, and soon -- it will have been designed to happen from the top. We have been long heading in that direction, and it won't be long before the house of cards topples. The people running this country from behind the curtains are internationalists, who want to do away with our borders and merge us into a global totalitarian system that will make Nazi Germany look like a picnic by comparison. So, to bring about this new global system, America will have to be brought down to its knees, and this will happen in the form of an economic collapse which will most likely coincide with another massive state-sponsored terror event like 9/11 and blamed once again on the Muslims. My gut feeling is that this will coincide with the coming North American Union scheduled for 2010.

    I hope all you people rooting for the collapse of this country will enjoy your implanted brain chips while being slaves on the global plantation. THAT'S what we're facing folks! It's time some of you started doing your homework. The United States is not run by its government. It's run by the central bankers who run the entire world, who tell governments what to do. Most of you cannot even fathom that. Bush is certainly not the one running the show in this country. He is merely a puppet and a figurehead for the people running the show from behind the scenes.
     
  4. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Also, being a Canadian, you should be ESPECIALLY concerned about this North American Union, which the media is ignoring because the governments of the US, Mexico and Canada (and the global elitists who control these governments) are all behind it and support it.
     
  5. dirtydog

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    Sorry, Pressed Rat, I guess I'm not reading the same media as you. What North American Union are you referring to, and who is supposedly pushing the idea?

    I'm sure there are more than a few Yanks who would like to use Canada to add a few more states, but they haven't been in power since 1812. There are other Yanks who want the border to remain right where it is in order to keep Canadian goods under tariff: the softwood lumber industry comes to mind.

    I had a good natured conversation with an American last summer who was suggesting merging our countries. I told him, if you want part of Canada, you can have Quebec, 'cause we can get along without 'em, but you can't have Alberta! You'd have to fish around for quite a while to find an Albertan who wants Canada to join the U.S.

    As far as merging with Mexico, I haven't visited Mexico since I was a teenager, but at the time I was struck by the real foreignness of the place. The cultural, language and economic differences between the U.S. and Mexico would seem to me to make a U.S.-Mexico merger unrealistic.

    I'd also like people to stop thinking abolition of the U.S. government would bring America "to its knees". That's not the way I see it at all. These states already have powerful National Guard armies which would no doubt absorb suddenly unemployed Army, Navy and Air Force personnel. With good luck the Marines would disband, and no one would miss them. What would change would be the removal of the American fist in the face of other nations world-wide.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Google it. There are also a few YouTube clips taken from CNN's Lou Dobbs, who is really the only person in the controlled corporate media to talk about this at any length.

    Actually, most Americans who are aware of this plan are not for it. It has nothing to do with the "Yanks" wanting to take over Canada. This is a GLOBALIST agenda, and your Prime Minister is every bit as much behind it (as was Martin), as is Mexico's President and our President, all of whom are working for the same big boys at the top.

    But, you see, when what we are facing emerges, which is a totalitarian one-world government, it won't matter what the people want. The same police state being set up in America is being set up all across the western world, because they know people are going to revolt once this all comes into fruition. Like I said, the goal is a fascist ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. You might have heard it described as a "New World Order."

    It might seem unrealistic to you, as it does to me and probably everyone else. But there is a difference between what the people think and what the Elite think. They want to create conflict within society so they can bring about THEIR solution, which is more control. This is why illegal immigrants from Mexico have been allowed to flood into the country, unimpeded, for the past decade. The goal is to lower the living standard and eventually topple the economy so they can bring about their new standardized government and currency, which will be modeled after the Euro, called the Amero.

    But with the agenda those at the top have for the US and the world, America will have to be brought down to its knees in the form of an economic collapse, which they have planned, which we can see unfolding if we look at the ongoing devaluation of the dollar and growing national debt. People will be out of work, unable to feed their families, and totally dependent on the State of their survival. This is the type of system they want to create. They don't want people out making money. They want people under the full control and reliance of the all-powerful state. This is the New World Order, which is to be based on a neo-feudalist, Soviet-socialist system of control.

    I know this probably sounds crazy to you and to most everyone else who has had their idea of how the world works moulded by the public school system and controlled corporate media. The way you see things is how most people see things who have been indoctrinated by the system. But they never see the reality behind this system they're born into, which seems quite normal to them as it's the only system they've ever known.

    I know America comes off as being the bad guys under the current situation in the Middle East, and in many ways it is. But to assume most, or even many Americans are in favor of the neocon agenda, is sheer ignorance. America is simply being used by the Global Elite to usher in this new global system, and will take the fall in the end. It's been set up to happen this way. The view that people abroad have about America being an aggressor is certainly true, but it's been designed this way. The people behind these wars, as well as most of our so-called "elected officials," do not represent the greater interests of this country or its people. They represent the interests of those behind the scenes, who are using America to take control over the Middle East and bring them under the globalist fiat money system. Once America has served its purpose and no longer useful to the Elite, it will brought down under the weight of its own incurred debt. This will no doubt collapse the entire world economy and usher in the new global-fascist system that has been in planning for many, many years.
     
  7. topolm

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    In all fairness, are you saying other countries have not been at war with others? Can you please provide a table listing ALL the armed conflicts in the last 217 years in the whole world so that we can evaluate the veracity of your claims? Please provide a statistical breakdown that shows what percentage of all armed conflict America was involved in. Just trying to be rational here. We dont take anything on faith here. ONLY FACTS. Feel free to cut and past citations with numbers stats etc.
     
  8. topolm

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    Pressed Rat, I think the NWO will fail. Please read and tell mw what you think...





    December 20, 2006

    The Rise of Russia and the Coming Resource Wars
    by Sol Palha



    [​IMG] "The best armor is to keep out of gunshot." - Francis Bacon 1561-1626, British Philosopher, Essayist, Statesman

    Russia's move in rejecting all outside help for the development of the Shtokmas field is a small subtle but potentially dangerous long term warning signal to nations that are low in natural resources, especially to the United States which imports the bulk of its oil. Let's take this move one step further. If a nation or for that matter certain companies start to feel that the price of the commodity is too low they can hold back on developing new fields or maybe even drastically cut down production in anticipation of much higher prices in the future. Essentially oil, natural gas, coal etc can now be considered as money in the bank and the longer someone holds out the higher the rate of return (interest). Russia is loaded with dollars and it wants to drastically reduce its holdings and come up with an alternative currency to price oil and other natural resources. Don't be surprised if they start of by giving the appearance that they want to embrace other currencies but actually make a push for their own resources to be priced in Russian Rubles.

    Putin made the following comments on May 10, 2006

    Our goods are traded on global markets. Why are not they traded in Russia?" Putin said. "The ruble must become a more widespread means of international transactions. To this end, we need to open a stock exchange in Russia to trade in oil, gas, and other goods to be paid for with rubles," Putin said Wednesday.

    In his Wednesday's address, Putin urged work on achieving ruble convertibility sped up and completed by July, six months ahead of the original January 1, 2007 deadline.

    If this exchange comes into existence it could have the equivalent effect of several Iraqi/Afghanistan style wars occurring simultaneously. The dollar will pull back dramatically as all this excess paper that was used to buy oil will now find its way back to the United States. This means the rate of inflation will rise significantly and commodities such as oil, natural gas, Gold, Silver, Platinum etc will experience huge price surges.

    Many resource rich nations are tired of being paid for good in worthless dollars and many of them want to do something about it. The only nation in a position to seriously challenge the US in this area is Russia. Even though there are other nuclear nations out there none of them have an arsenal that is significant enough to threaten the US. When we mean none we are referring to nations that are not allies of the US, hence the entire western European hemisphere can be ruled out and Israel which is rumored to have over 200 war heads can also be ruled. So that really leaves China, India, Russia, Pakistan etc. Even though China is in the midst of a massive military build up it cannot single handedly challenge the US? The only nation that has enough firepower to take on the US is Russia. Note they are the largest producers of oil (they do not hold the biggest reserves) and they have the worlds largest supply of Natural gas. They also control over 70% of the worlds Palladium and the list goes on. Hence Russia is in a position to challenge the Dominance of the Dollar and actually go out there and start asking for payments in other currencies. When this is done a lot of worthless dollar based paper will be left out there which means that prices of natural resources will accelerate even more when priced in dollars.

    What Russia is effectively doing right now is attacking the US where it hurts? The cold war between Russia and the United States never ended it just took a different course. Putin is determined to teach the West a lesson and bring Russia to the forefront of world matters. They are busy exerting their influence over all the countries that made up the former soviet union, forming military relationships with the Chinese, supplying the Iranians with weapons and know how, supplying the Venezuelans with weapons and the list goes on. Note how both Russia and China are both embracing rogue nations but nations that are loaded to the gills with natural resources.

    One can see how Russia and China have both changed their stance and attitude towards the US in the last few years; as two permanent members on the security council they openly oppose any strong action that comes from the US regardless of whether the threat is credible or not. Two examples; they have opposed the US policy on North Korea and Iran every single step of the way and when they do agree its only because the original decrees are so watered down that they are insignificant at best.

    Conclusion

    It appears that Russia is looking for means to deal a severe blow to the United States. One way of doing this is to place all the majority of the assets under state control and then use these assets as a weapon. The other means is to go out and strategically and purchase controlling interests in commodity based companies all over the Globe. Russia has slowly been doing this; one example is they very cunningly purchased controlling interest in Still Water mining at an incredibly low price. They paid a measly 7.50 per share and thus assumed full control of North America's largest Palladium producer. If the new commodities exchange goes into effect Russia will effectively deal the dollar a death blow and we could very well enter into the first leg of a hyper inflationary move. Emboldened by Russia's move nations such as Venezuela and Iran will soon follow suite and further erode the value of the dollar. In the precious metals sector the biggest benefactors are going to be Gold and Silver.

    Even though in our most recent article we stated that if Gold is unable to stay above its main trend line it could test its recent lows again; the geopolitical situation is such that everyone should at least have a portion of their assets in Gold and Silver bullion.

    "One must change one's tactics every ten years if one wishes to maintain one's superiority." - Napoleon Bonaparte 1769-1821, French General, Emperor
     
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    they cant sneak something this big on the american people.....
    it might pass through a democratic process with its share of contreversy

    but their sure as hell not going to sneak it on us.....

    especially with the "formal agreement" bush took the liberty to sign.....wich has no validity as far as im concearned
     
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    I dont know if I agree with you. If the economy collapses, America WILL have a race war. Game over. No totalitarian govt can stay in power if it doesnt have the money to buy oil.
     
  11. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, we will indeed see mass civil unrest. Period. I am sure there will be various factions fighting against each other once the shit hits the fan, and this is just what the Elite want. Again, Ordo Ab Chao -- ie. ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. This has always been their formula for control. They wouldn't have been flooding this country with illegal aliens for as long as they have if they weren't planning on race wars. Besides, as long as the races are warring against each other, oblivious to who their common enemy is, the Elite are safe in their underground bunkers with their unlimited resources. What does it matter to them?

    Why do you think we're seeing so much federal money going towards the militarization/sovietization of our local police forces? Why do you think all this money is going towards converting former military bases and warehouses into FEMA concentration camps, which will be used to house dissenters?

    You say that no totalitarian government can stay in power if it doesn't have the money to buy oil, but have you asked yourself who the people behind this totalitarian government will be? The people who own the printing presses, who print money out of thin air, can do whatever the hell they want as long as they have a system set up to dominate and control the masses.
     
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    Well, with all due respect, when the Soviet Union's economy collapsed, the empire collapsed, neatly along ethnic lines. Economic collapse led to death of totalitarianism in the former USSR. You have racial polarization in every section of American society. When enough AR15 armed Joe six pack's with former military training or law enforcement experience lose their homes due to foreclosure, we will have a violent revolution. Mark my words. It is axiomatic in history that multi-racial empires ALL FAIL in a predictable manner. Group survival instincts are starting to kick in among European Americans. Its only natural and predicted by natural law. The same is happening in Europe with the 3rd world invasion. Heglian Dialectic = philosophy of backlash. I dont think the elite have any idea what they are unleashing. They can't control it if they dont have the financial resources to buy people off. Please share your thoughts, I think quite highly of your opinions.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, as I am sure you already know, the Soviet system was set up by the West. So was the current system in China. The Russian Soviet-Communist system was never intended to last any longer than it was needed. As I stated previously, the Soviet system was set up to be this looming, manufactured boogeyman over the West, partly to be used as a justification for the arms buildup we witnessed with the Cold War. It was also created as a test bed for what is to come on a much wider, global scale. Gorbachev said just prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union that we would hear that Communism is dead, but not to believe it because it was simply going underground, only to emerge later on a much greater scale. And Gorbachev should know, being the darling of the Elite that he is.

    The coming collapse that will topple the current system will only be used to bring about the new fascist system with its centralized government and currency, and there will be more than enough money behind this system, which has been in the works for ages. Like I said, there is always money available to fund whatever the Elite want funded to back their agenda. When you have the ability to print money from nothing, you have the ability to do pretty much anything.

    And yes, there will definitely be massive backlash from all of this. That's why we see things headed in the direction they are. There are ways of controlling the population that most of us cannot even fathom, using various HAARP technologies that can literally control the minds of an entire continent. There is a good chance many people will die fighting this new system, but many will fear for their lives and simply become submissive as well, thus allowing themselves to become peasants.

    I certainly hope you're right, though. There is no doubt this system can be beat, and rather easily if enough people would simply wake up and realize what's happening. Most people, unfortunately, don't have a clue, and I am sure once the shit does hit the fan there will be a fall guy blamed, or a certain ethnic or religious group for people to take their anger out on.
     
  14. topolm

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    We European-Americans have a very dangerous habit of assuming that everyone thinks just like us and has good intentions. We have a very hard time spotting alien-unspoken agendas. We fail to spot these agendas because we are not looking for them. We must learn to stop and think.

    Let me illustrate with a classic example.

    Recently Richard Herrnstein and Charles Murray wrote a book entitled "The Bell Curve." The book raised a big rukus and reviews appeared everywhere.


    Now according to the authors, the main message of the book is that our elites are becoming dangerously isolated from the common man. But according to the reviewers, the main message of the book was that some brown races have lower IQs!

    Now why do you suppose that the authors and the reviewers disagree so profoundly about the theme and the purpose of the book?

    Who do you suppose is right?

    Fascinating questions! As I open my copy and count pages, it becomes apparent that the authors spend 509 pages on the evidence that intelligence is hereditary and that our "information elites" are being selected on this hereditary basis.

    The authors then spend a mere 17 pages (Chapter 21) on their central thesis - the dangers created by the isolation of this new elite.

    Now let me warn you. When an author sets out to write a book about the dangers of a new hereditary elite, spends 500+ pages proving that such an elite has been created, but only 17 pages on the dangers (their sole stated purpose) something very important is going on. Your "code-speak" antenna should arise.

    And indeed when you read those 17 pages of chapter 21, you get very thin gruel. These pages reiterate what is said in the preface; - that this new cognitive elite is isolated. Never, ever does the book give you one illustration, example or even a hint of exactly what the "danger" might be.

    If all you are to do is comprehend the literal meaning of the words, then you are left scratching your head. So the cognitive elite is isolated? Why is that dangerous? What apocalypse awaits? The most important message of this book is broadly hinted at, but left entirely unspoken. Nevertheless, with a little detective work, the message is clear.

    The authors are very careful to lay out the social pathologies that accompany low IQ, including increased crime, poverty and illegitimacy. They pointedly assert, over and over, that the intelligent are being removed from most working class neighborhoods. At the turn of the century, the intelligent formed most of the neighborhood leaders in churches, PTAs and local clubs. As these people are removed from working class neighborhoods, these neighborhoods are crippled, unable to organize, and vulnerable to social decay.

    For the first 266 pages, the authors confine their discussion of the effects of low IQ to whites only, and limit the statistics on social pathology to whites (a very important clue about the real message of this book). They place particular emphasis on the advent of high levels of white illegitimacy, implying that white neighborhoods will soon become as dangerous and crime ridden as black neighborhoods.

    The authors do not want readers with short attention spans to miss the graphic descriptions of white, working class neighborhoods full of illegitimacy and sullen angry skin-heads.

    The next clue is a graphic on page 46, which clearly shows that while American Universities have been doing a much better job at rounding up intelligent people and getting them college degrees, only slightly more than half those with IQs above 115 get college degrees, and a clear majority of those above 130 do _not_ attend college, remaining scattered in the those decaying neighborhoods.

    Now why do you suppose the authors would print such an important graphic that tends to undermine their thesis? The graphic shows that while there may be _fewer_ intelligent people back in those decaying neighborhoods, nevertheless, a clear majority of those with IQs at the truly gifted and genius levels remain back there with the decay!

    People with IQs above 130 process information differently from the rest of society. They care a lot less about status. They are self-taught. They will act upon ideas, regardless of what others think. They have far less patience with propaganda than people with IQs below 130. People with IQs between 110 and 120 are far more conscious of status, manners and place. They tend to be a powerful force for social stability.


    Now I will ask you; could this graphic have something to do with the real message of this book?

    Might this vision of decaying white neighborhoods with too few 115 IQ people for stability but with more than half of our geniuses be disquieting to anyone out there?

    Is the real message that there are more than enough very smart people left in those decaying white neighborhoods to cause lots of trouble? I.e. Smart people who can easily carry out a successful and violent revolution against a culturally and racially hostile elite with their ability to organize the ignorant masses...

    The Jewish Bolsheviks went to great lengths to exterminate the best and brightest in Russia to prevent a potential such scenario from occuring.

    Is the "code" becoming clearer?

    So who, exactly is this "elite" that the authors are warning of impending danger? The book never says, although there are hints.

    The book carefully notes that Asians have IQs that are 5 points, on average, ahead of whites. Jews have IQs that are 12 points above whites.

    The authors spend 500 pages demonstrating that those people in our society with the highest IQs get all the best jobs, make all the money, and end up with all the power.

    So let us go ahead and break the code! Here is the authors' real message:



    • How is it going to look to the European-American majority when most of the good jobs, most of the wealth and most of the power are held by Jews, Asians and other high IQ imports?

      Worse yet, how is this concentration of wealth and power in minority hands going to look when these minorities impose racial quotas, attack majority religions and culture, and do everything in their power to weaken the majority, and to accelerate the pace of social decay?
    The authors think that this is a prescription for disaster. But of course, they must say it in code. The bald indented statements above are very dangerous. Such statements can never be made in public.

    Their warning is directed at this new culturally non-white elite. The authors are neo-conservatives. What the authors are saying, in code, is that in order to be a secure elite, you must actively seek to foster and protect the culture of the majority. You cannot tear it down. You cannot, on one hand preach the virtues of equality, opportunity and diversity, while at the same time attacking the culture of the majority and hobbling them with quotas.

    The problem that all neo-conservatives are addressing is a simple one. These new minority elites must overcome their suspicions and hostilities toward the majority or there well be real trouble. In particular, the newly conspicuous jewish elite must learn to foster and protect traditional Christianity and stop viewing it as an "enemy". The jews must shed their paranoia about pogroms and vigilantly protect the culture of the white majority.

    Holding prosperous positions carries with it the responsibility for protecting others. For minorities in these positions, the responsibility is a stretch. According to these two neo-conservative authors, it is a responsibility that our new minority elites are handling very badly.

    Multi-racial empires have a unique flaw that homogenous nations do not.

    In a homogenous nation, ethnic unity tends to discipline elites to take responsibility for their political positions. If their policy prescriptions are destructive, they are destroying their own people. Ethnic unity tends to add a dimension of control to the appetites of elites. They are expected to protect the health safety and happiness of their own kind.

    In a multiracial empire, elites become cosmopolitan. They lose the sense of unity between race and nation, and are free to advocate all sorts of bad policies, because the ill consequence of this policy will be inflicted upon cultural and racial strangers - people for whom these elites no longer have a sense of responsibility. It is only when a policy affects them personally that they react.

    For minority elites, the problem is even worse. Because the evil policy could not have been adopted without some majority support, the minority elites never feel responsible for the consequences. In addition, minority elites will believe that the policy would have worked out fine if only the majority had not screwed up the administration of it.

    That is why we still have Marxists in 1995. Being a jewish ideological construct, the descendants of the jews who invented it still believe it, despite its failure everywhere it has been tried, because it has "never been administered correctly." There is nothing wrong with Marxism; the problem is with the goyim who keep messing it up.

    Not only are they free to disclaim responsibility, but they are free to indulge veiled hatreds toward the majority, with very little risk of discovery. All they need do is to speak in code, so that members of their own kind understand but the broader society does not.

    Out of spleen and spite for some ancient outrage or slight, these minority elites are free to advocate racial quotas, confiscatory taxes, destroy traditional religions and promote alternative life styles that plunge millions into poverty and crime without the slightest remorse for the consequences. Why? Because they feel no bond of kinship with these people who are harmed. More often than not, they are overtly hostile to those harmed.

    Neo-conservatives do not think that this will work.

    But they also must speak in code. For indeed, the intended audience is expected to understand the real message without having it spelled out in black and white. Spelling it out runs the risk of informing the unorganized and unsuspecting majority. And that is not their purpose.

    What you, the average European-American, must understand is that minority elites will always speak to each other of truly important and dangerous things in code.

    After all, when they debate among themselves just exactly how they must deal with us, it may be very dangerous if we hear and understand.

    Speaking in code is the sign of a strong culture, a culture with a will to survive. To remain ignorant of the truly important discussions going on around us dealing with our fate is a sign of a weak culture, one that is easily destroyed.

    We must change.

    We must learn how to think like minorities. We must develop powerful "code-speak" antenna.

    We must understand the real agendas behind the words and images placed before us so that we can defend our own culture.

    Neo-conservatism is a Jewish thing. It was invented by Norman Podhoretz and Midge Dechter at Commentary magazine. Its leading lights are George Gilder, Irving Kristol, and his son, Bud Kristol, Ronald Reagan's speech writer. They are good people, devoid of ethnic hostility towards us. They are engaged in a passionate and sincere debate with the "socialist" and profoundly anti-white members of their own tribe over the issue of fitness for leadership of this American empire.

    If I thought the neoconservatives had a chance of winning this argument I would not be alarming you in this manner. But it is our job to be realists and defend ourselves. The neoconservatives are good people, but they constitute a mere 10% of their tribe.

    The neoconservatives are faced with a daunting task. They must convince their co-religionists to protect and foster Christian belief and Christian values among Christians, at a time when establishment judaism and the Holocaust lobby constantly fan their fears to raise funds for Jewish charities and the State of Israel.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    OK - so get to the point and tell me what YOU think? Judaism, Zionism, Neoconservatism, Liberalism... they're all simply tools for something much bigger. I hardly consider the neocons to be "the Elite." They are simply elite gofers, and are in actuality very low-level compared to the people who are really calling the shots, who the neocons must answer to at the end of the day.
     
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    The frightening majority of NeoCons, Zionists, Marxist liberals are all Jewish. The Bolshevik Revolution was Jewish. It was a racist revolution whereby Jewish racial nationalists (operating under the guise of "internationlists") murdered 60,000,000 Slavic Europeans. It was racial genocide masked under class liquidation. Code speak. I know you know all about doublespeak.

    Media, academia, the financial and political systems in European countries are dominated by Jews. Jews are an ethnic/racial group. They define themselves this way. Its not a religious thing at all. Zionism and Judaism go hand in hand.

    You state that you think run of the mill Jews are being brainwashed by their Jewish elites: the "so called NWO", to carryout schemes hostile to every race or nation. I wont disagree. In fact you are COMPLETELY correct. However, if they are brainwashed, it is less important to open their eyes, and more important for us to neutralize them. You dont treat a rabid dog. You put it down. They are a lost cause. Those that are not brainwashed are not a threat to the world and should be left in peace.

    Karl Marx spoke in code when he said the History of the world was one of class struggle. In fact, the history of the world is one of ethnic/racial struggle hidden with references to class etc. That's it. Done. Nothing more to it. Is it a profound realization? Nope, not at all. It's common sense and its the truth. The Frankfurt School of thought more explicitly defined Karl Marx's ideas as an ethnic/racial and gender (to foster hostility between European men and women) struggle in order to optimize their chances of success. NWO or whatever you want to call it is a racial struggle. If you carefully read my previous post, you understand WHO the elites now are. They have ingroup and outgroup loyalties. They are not WASPS at all. Any WASPS are there merely for the ride. This elite supports any and all policies that would prevent other ethnicities/races from undermining them by dividing and conquering within a political system (multi-racial empires). They are seeking to cobble together a global multi-racial empire that their trube controls. They support unlimited nonwhite immigration to white nations in order to prevent a revolution. This is why NATIONALISM has always been theor greatest threat. Nationalism is growing all over the world.

    The Japanese and Chinese are extremely racially conscious people. They are loyal to their kind first and if they participate in globalization it is solely to further the interests of their people. Is there anything inherently evil about this? Not really, if you understand that racial conflict is the cornerstone of world history. Its just more of the same ol same ol, but most people have been de-racinated by media conditioning to think that we can all just get along if we hold hands.

    Read the Talmud sometime. Its not a religion. Its not a cult either. Its a codified racial survival strategy that aptly delineates outgroup and ingroup loyalties. This is what Judaism is. Hannukah, for example celebrates non-assimilation of the Jews among the Greeks. It is a celebration of racial separatism.

    Professor Earl Raab of Brandeis University's Institute for Jewish Advocacy gleefully stated:

    "The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan [read: pro-White] party will be able to prevail in this country. We [meaning his fellow Jews] have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to ethnic bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make it irreversible...."

    In plain language, Professor Raab is boasting that he and his fellow Jews have changed the immigration laws -- and prevented the government from enforcing what immigration laws we still have -- in order to make the American population more heterogeneous, or, to use the more familiar term, more diverse. (What they don't tell you, of course, is that massive racial and ethnic mixing within nations will actually destroy races and reduce human biodiversity, about which the Jewish supremacists care not at all.) When Raab says that a "Nazi-Aryan party" can never prevail, what he means is that a party that represents the interests of White people can never be elected in the new America that he and his fellow Jews have been creating.

    Their goal is to make Whites a minority in their own country so that the Whites can never combine against the Jews and regain control of their own destiny. I hope this is starting to make sense to you. Its always been based on race. ALWAYS. Most people are too damn politically correct to admit this. I'm NOT. The Emperor has no clothes.


    Many well meaning but misguided individuals like to think that the most educated people are the most tolerant when it comes to race an racial harmony will happen through education. Baloney. Read the following article from Rice University and apply some deductive reasoning. Do you think instinctual racial consciousness can REALLY be overcome through education??? Sure, they talk the talk to maintain an air of social acceptability in today's hostile climate, but in private, a whole different mentality exists.

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    Most of us think that education broadens an individual’s perspective and helps diminish racist attitudes. Prior studies have validated that conventional wisdom, but new research indicates just the opposite may be true.

    A study, co-authored by Rice sociologist Michael Emerson, shows that increased education of whites, in particular, may not only have little effect on eliminating prejudice, but it also may be one reason behind the rise of racial segregation in U.S. schools. Furthermore, higher-educated whites, regardless of their income, are more likely than less-educated whites to judge a school’s quality and base their school choice on its racial composition.

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    I did not say other countries have not been at war. I did say that the Russians, to my knowledge, have only been involved with Chechnya when it comes to armed conflict. As you know, Russian considers the conflict to be an internal affair, and it considers Chechnya to be part of Russia. Russia has also had recent sharp disagreements with Georgia, and possibly with other countries I don't know about.

    My point is that Russia and the other 14 countries of the former Soviet Union have been less prone to international conflict than they were before the Soviet Union disbanded. To substantiate the above claim, of course, would require some research and a very lengthy response. Certainly the Comintern no longer exists. You don't see Russian or Ukrainian naval forces threatening South Asia, Africa, Australia, Latin America or North America.

    To produce the 'statistical breakdown' you suggest above might make an interesting term paper for a university-level political science student. I'm sure such a term paper would come to 20 pages or more in its analysis, not to mention the bibliography. Sorry, I'm not in the business of writing term papers at the moment. It's not worth it to me to put in 60 or 100 hours of research to score points on this forum, as I think you realized when you made your 'let's have the facts' remark.
     
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    So, you seem to be fantasizing about an international Jewish conspiracy conspiring with Bolsheviks to take over the world. Sounds like Josef Goebbels to me. I read Mein Kampf some time back (English translation). Although I don't have it in front of me, Hitler went on an extended rant about the Communists, the Jews and the International Stock Exchange conspiring to cheat innocent Germans out of all their worldly goods. A lot of Germans bought it, and they did elect the Nazis in 1933. It seems to me you bought the Nazi line as well. I seriously doubt that any facts I present would change your mind.

    The Nazis committed crimes it will take the Germans a hundred years to make up for. I doubt that if you took your ideas to a contemporary German audience (other than skinheads) you'd get a very warm reception.

    Several of the more important Bolsheviks were Jewish (Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky). In Three Who Made a Revolution (pp. 182-183), Bertram Wolfe states that 'there were many more intellectuals of Jewish origin among the Mensheviks (Martov, Axelrod) than among the Bolsheviks, and the few who were associates of Lenin, like Trotsky, were likely to be 'unjewish Jews': non-professing, Russified, brought up outside the [Jewish] pale.'

    It is true that the Communists under Stalin murdered a great many people, including Russians and the many nationalities under Soviet control. I don't know where you came up with your 60 million figure. One of the first groups to die in the purges of the twenties was all the Bolsheviki Stalin could lay his hands on. (See Leon Trotsky, The Revolution Betrayed.) It is also true that pogroms (massacres of Jews) continued on Russian soil after the Russian revolutions of 1917, particularly during the Russian Civil War (1919-1922).

    For whatever it's worth, I myself am not a Jew. That is probably not of interest to anyone but a Nazi such as yourself.
     
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    http://www.vdare.com/misc/051105_macdonald_stalin.htm

    How little do you know...
     
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    Topolm:
    I skim-read read Kevin McDonald's article given in your link. He has some good points and some unsupportable points. What would he think of the liquidation of the Bronstein estate (Trotsky's successful farming parents) by the Stalinists?

    At any rate, Nazi, you're way off topic. The title of this thread is "Abolition of the U.S. Government", if you can remember back that far.
     

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