Soy can kill?

Yesterday i recieved this email and after reading it thought it was complete and utter crap and written by someone who wanted to people to eat more meat. That may be a little paranoid but oh well. So i just wanted to get all of your opinions on this and find out if there is any truth to it.

ONE WOMAN'S STORY ON SOYA .... INTERESTING FACTS



All Males-PLEASE pass this info to ALL your female friends... It may save their lives!........Something to take note of.

This is my true story, nothing altered. These are facts, as they relate to my experience, my opinions based on what I have read and felt. I am relating them to warn other young health-conscious women who are willingly

harming themselves.

In 1989, I graduated from high school in Texas and couldn't wait to hit the big college city. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat healthier. Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body with the best and healthiest foods I could find. Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk almost every day. I

used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup wth tofu, soyabeans, soyabean sprouts, etc.

All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer. It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all the time, but my menstrual cycle was off. At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual cycle. In addition to this I began to suffer from painful periods. I began to get puffy, it was as though I was losing my muscle tone. I began to

suffer from depression and getting hot flashes. I mistook all this for PMS since my periods were irregular.

By the time I was 25, my periods were so bad I couldn't walk. The birth control pills never made them regular or less painful so I decided to stop taking them. I went on like this for another two years until I realized my pain wasn't normal. At 27, my gynecologist found two cysts in my uterus. Both were the size of tennis balls. I went through surgery to have them removed and thank God they were benign. The gynecologist told me to go back on birth control pills. I didn't. In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery and again it was benign.

In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums became inflamed. Thinking I had a tooth infection i went to the dentist who told me that teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling still did not go down. At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my neck. I told my mother I had thyroid trouble. She think I was being silly. No one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw a specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinoma. After a series of tests he told me. The specialist told us that it would only be after the operation that a pathologist would be able to tell us for sure if it was cancer. They found a tumor at my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another smaller tumor growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed. They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be safe and assured me that I could live a long life. After treatment I began to search for the cause of all these problems. I never once thought it could be all the soya I had consumed for nearly ten years. After all, soya is healthy.

I came upon a web page that linked thyroid problems to soya intake and the conspiracy of soya marketed as a health food when in fact it is only a toxic by-product of the vegetable oil industry. This was insane, after all, the health and fitness magazines had said nothing about soya being harmful.

I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985. She informed me that soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due to cysts and other uterine problems. A few months later another acquaintance who had consumed soya came down with thyroid cancer. A girl in England I met through the internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone surgery and she was only 19.

What was going on????

Breast cancer is linked to estrogen. What mimics estrogen in the female body??

SOYA!

But I never suspected soya because until now I never once found a single article that stated soya could be dangerous. Women who took soya prior to thyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not aware of what soya actually does, what it contains and how it reacts in the female body. I think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer often

develop breast cancer later.



My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and gaining weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus too. I warned her to stay off soya. I refered her to websites but until it is on the evening news on all four networks, women will suffer. Since the thyroidectomy. I do not touch soya, haven't for two years.

Dear readers, please use my story in any way you can. There are so many young girls who are consuming soya because they think they are taking care of themselves, and women taking soya because they want to be healthy. It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of soya isn't more widely circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who feel this way and it is

a terrible blow when you realize you are not as healthy as you thought and that the information that you depended on was wrong.



SOME REFERENCES:

http://www.netlink.de/gen/Zeitung/2000/000813.html

http://www.biotech-info.net/soya.html

http://www.haelan.co.uk/Wholefood-Soya.shtml

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The phytoestrogens in Soy are not utilized by the human body as actual estrogen. The body does not recognize them as estrogen, and estrogen uptake areas are not fitted into by "phytoestrogens."

Anyone can start a website about anything they want. I see no studies, no links to research articles, no hard data.

Some people are allergic to soy, but saying "Soy Kills" is pretty extreme.

 

Overconsumption of anything is bad though, it's about balance - some people are far more susceptible to problems from hormones as well (I seem to recall .Hannah. posting something about how soy affected her as well, in a negative way, from overconsumption)

 

I was e-mailed this a while back too and I don't believe it has any solid scientific foundation. There was also another similar 'scaremonger' sent around the same time about washing new bras before you wear them which had some really clever photoshop pics. I get really annoyed when I get sent this kind of rubbish. Sometimes I guess some people have nothing better to do.... If you can't create a virus, scare monger?

 

soy contains plant estrogens (phytoestrogens) that much is true. Those estrogens are nowhere near as harmful or as scary as man-made estrogenic toxins found in herbicides, pesticides, and anything that has been bleached with chlorine, not to mention the urine of women taking birth control pills that goes right back into our drinking water supply. These toxins are stored in our body, in our fat cells, and accumulate to very high levels over time. So unless a person can honestly say they have never encountered any other estrogenic toxins, which is virtually impossible anywhere on this planet, they have cannot blame soy consumption for hormonal disorders. Geesh - this person even took hormonal birth control for a time! That probably had more effect on her body than any amount of soy she possibly could have eaten.

 

Soy is a phytoestrogen, as some have already stated.

Close facsimilies are "xenoestrogens" which can be found in such spiffy little items as plastic shower curtains, lawn pesticides, and some water bottles.

Too much of that crap can cause estrogen dominence with all its glorious symptoms - including fat accumulation, odd periods, breast cancer - in women.

In men it's most likely seen as ED.

Okay hippies - here's the OTHER side of the "anti soy" story - and yeah, you're hearing it from ME on my second post here - so hopefully I don't make a lot of enemies my first day on the playground!



Soy protein (specifically soy isoflaves) wreak havoc on thyroid health.

Period.

If your thyroid is a healthy little gland, pumping out hormone like it should - then MODERATE (I will say that again to solidify my point - MODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDERATE) amounts of soy won't amount to a hill of bean curd in terms of how it negatively affects your thyroid.

This is because when soy isoflaves attach themselves to the HEALTHY thyroid's T hormones that are pulsing through your blood thus making it bioUNavailable for your body to use - the healthy happy little thyroid will just shrug, say "It ain't no big thing" and pump out more hormone.

The healthy little 'roid (THYroid - that is) will respond with additional hormone to compensate for the soy stolen thyroid hormone. (To understand biounavailability in this case - think of a little soy molecule grabbing a little thyroid homrone molecule and scampering away to its hidden underground dungeon with it - absconding with it).

That is the story for a person with a healthy little roid.

For those of us (ahem - like yours truly) who have unhelathy thyroids - the story is much sadder. When the soy isoflave attaches to the T hormones - our sad little thyroid guys can't buck up and pump out more hormone.

It's like sucking water from an empty well.

You can work your ass off but you can't lift water from an empty well.

The even better news is - your dr. could have tested your thyroid and decided "it's NORMAL" (Gawd how I hate that word) because - oh lucky you - you fall within the normal spectrum.

Which has been determined by testing HEALTHY WHITE MALES BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 and 35.

If you are not in that group - your NORMAL may not be the standrad normal - but - ooooooops - too bad for you - your level falls within the scales - even if you are a 50 year old African American female who has given birth.

Yes, yes, yes - the testing result "normal" scale has been lowered - but trust me hippies - it has not been lowered enough for MOST of us who have certain thyroid diseases. We still fall through the cracks like money through a war happy president's hands.

It is far too late to make a long story short but I will gladly discuss this further if anybody has an interest. In the meantime suffice it to say - SOY ISOFLAVES are unhealthy for an underactive thyroid.

If you have an underactive (or as in my case an entirely DEAD) thyroid - you would probably feel leaps and bounds better if you ditched the soy (which is in Western packaged food in great abundance - often labeled as "vegetable protein").

How I became an EX-vegetarian is a topic for another day, but I will gladly admit that now I do eat meat - in small doses and only when it's been purchased from my local rancher - the guy who feeds his livestock ONLY grass and hay (no soy based feed), who uses NO hormones, and whose livestock roams wild and free. I won't buy meat in a store or eat it @ a restaurant (except an organic one) - but I will eat it.

And yes, as a hypothyroid Hashimoto's patient - it HAS made a ton of difference in my health, happiness, and ability to enjoy life.

Bottom line - SOY should be ingested in moderation and - like everything else - only after one has decided it is the best option for THEM.

Peace to all.

 

Moderation is key.. this story doesn't sound true though. I've heard of soy being bad for people like this but it sounds like someone made it up.. maybe that guy who said soy makes men gay..

 

I agree that soy CAN make men LESS driven by testosterone - not necessarily GAY - but - then again - it isn't THAT much of a stretch.

Figure it like this - Soy is a phytoESTROGEN and if a young baby has lots and lots of soy formula in his diet, then eats lots and lots of soy protein in his younger years - then MAYBE he will develop more estrogenic traits over testosterone ones.

I'm not a research scientist so I don't KNOW that soy can make men gay (and frankly I don't think it's THAT simple - a man eats soy and turns gay) but I see logic in it.

I do know that too much estrogen is not healthy for anybody, but because we in USA (I can't speak for other western countries) manage to consume TONS of soy without even knowing it (it's in everything from cheaply made ice cream to many typical grocery store crackers, to most "low carb" breads) we can - and often do - feel the effects of estrogen dominance.

 

anything will kill you with a certain dose.

 

I read somewhere that our soy products are not fermented beans like they are in other countries. Supposedly that is the problem.
Honestly, I have no idea if that is true or not... I did find it interesting.
I try to do more of an Americanized Mediterranean diet, soy really doesn't figure in much for me.

 

sounds to me like taking birth control pills would cause all that not too much soy! i'm a firm believer in breast cancer rising is due to women intentionally and willingly swallowing hormones daily! i think it's weird and unnatural.

 

my daughter has been big into soya for last 4 years, now having all sorts of problems with hormone imbalance suspected Polycystic ovaries, and the more i read a bout soya, the more i dislike it and suspect its the cause of her problems. thanks for getting this info out here

 

like, soy milk? or soy beans? or tofu? just any of that stuff?