circumcision???

if i ever have a boy ... i would def get him circumsize him. Why ? so he would never get infection ... I know i would never be able to BF.. Because of medical prob So does that mske me a horrible parent .. NO!

 

How can you know if you can breastfeed before you have children? If a doctor has told you this, you really should consult another physician for medical concerns, because this doctor obviously doesn't know very much!

Also, please reference a paper or study saying that mutilated men have less infections.

 

I figure it's probably a good idea to get the opinion of a male here as it seems to be mostly women who are responding about what to do with a male's body. I am firmly AGAINST circumcision for many reasons.

First off, I'll bring up something that I hear a lot of women say in response to abortion rights. "IT'S MY BODY!" While I have issues with abortion, I won't go into that right now. But I do find it funny how there's a lot of fuss about how no one should choose what a woman does with her body, but it's okay to do whatever they want to their little boy's body? BULLSHIT!!! I'm a circumcised man and I'm PISSED about it! It's MY body and no one should have had the right to mutilate me as they did! And I resented my mom later on for this.

"they won't get infection." BULLSHIT!!! What proof is there that circumcised boys will have less problems than uncircumcised? If there is more infection or irritation, it's due to poor hygiene. So, you'll mutilate your child in order to be lazy when it comes to proper bathing?

"I don't want my kid to wonder why they look different than daddy." If I have a son and they ask me why my jewels look different from his, I'll teach him that everyone is different. Hell, if I think he's old enough to understand, I'll flat out tell him that I was mutilated as a child and didn't want him to have to go through the same pain.

"He'll look different from the rest of the boys and will be picked on." BULLSHIT!!! Less and less people are getting their boys cut due to more information (or lack thereof) regarding the benefits of circumcision. Outside of the US, circumcised boys are the MINORITY.

"Sex will be better when they're circumcised." BULLSHIT!!! I've met plenty of uncut men and none of them have ever complained about their sex life. Besides, the only ones who would know are those who have had sex before AND after getting cut.

"Foreskins are nasty/ugly." BULLSHIT!!! Matter of opinion. In Europe, Africa, Asia, South America, Australia, hardly anyone would share that opinion with you.

Something else I should mention. My brother was circumcised as well. And the doctors messed up on BOTH of our circumcisions. They did a messy job with one and the other one was CUT TOO CLOSE!!! you want to talk about infections and complications?

I have no info on the issue of breastfeeding, but I do trust Maggie's input as well as many of the other wonderful moms here, including my darling wife, Hippyfreek. If anyone else has reasons to mutilate their boys, I'll be glad to show them the bullshit behind their reasons.

Remember, if we weren't meant to have it, we wouldn't have been born with it. There is a reason why men have foreskins. Why mess with nature?

 

I always thought the "I don't want him to look different that daddy" reason was a cop-out. Little boys and their fathers are not identical. It is as easy as explaining to a boy why their hair or eyes are different than daddy as it is to explain why their penis may not look identical. It isn't embarrassing to them to not be identical to dad. Not to mention a little potty-training boy's penis isn't going to look much like his father's anyway, circumcised or not.

 

*sigh*
went shopping with my mother today and happened to bring up the issue.
looks like she and everyone else i know thinks he should be circumcised. I know it's not their choice, but it would be nice if someone around here was on my side.

 

We're on your side!!! By the way, I just told Jimmy that I'm so glad we didn't cut his penis and he laughed and flung his arms around me and hugged me!

 

Hey! Leave it as it should be - we reasearched circumcision before for my son was born - ( he is now 3) - No worries! - He is fine - and the scary cases of children 11 and up that needed circumcision were because of hygenial problems - but not associated with normal circumcision cases - Keep it clean other words - and teach your children to do the same - My understanding is that it takes away from sensivity - and feel - beside the controversy about it being "dirty", no worries the skin is there to protect, not hinder. We are other wise perfect creatures - if our brains didn't get in the way - more so our emotions! Leave it and let it be! Seriously, do your research!

 

When you actually have babies of your own, you aren't so quick to trust any one person's opinion on anything. You want what's best for your baby, and you research EVERYTHING until you can make an informed decision. You are apparently not very well informed.

 

i have learned to let other think as they choose, and not inandate them with my thoughts. Its mch easier them dealing with the ressure and anxiety of trying to prove myself right. Doesn't everyone think ther right for one reason or another. I remember at my first sons baby shower (we knew it was a Boy) Thrown by my aunt who i had just recently met, as my mother was adopted. And this was her bio family. we were finished with all the gift giving and sitting around chatting. When my aunt suddenly mention that she was going to get a circ kit for me (Bandaging and ointment) she explained, well i will just have to get this myself since it is a boy. Well it was like she just grew a third i, but i didn't tell her she had a third eye. I looked at my mother, then my MIL and shared a smile with them. Knowing full well that i had there support. My father never had a circ, so mother knew full well that uncirced penis didn't have an additional eye. And my Mil who adpoted her son at 4mo. and decided when she recieved intact to leave him intact. So i did have really great support from them. Not to mention the father was intact. Now as far as the medical establishment, i had several looks at me as if i had an addition eye. When i was ready to check out, all my paperwork was done. So i paged the nurses desk to see what the hold up was. and i heard so loud on the speaker "your baby didn't have a circ did he" i responded with a "and he is not going to" I have to say i was so glad when i took him to his 2 week checkup. And the doctor commended me for not having him circed. I knew i liked her for even more reason now. But it was really great to here this from someone.

 

i have learned to let other think as they choose, and not inandate them with my thoughts. Its mch easier them dealing with the ressure and anxiety of trying to prove myself right. Doesn't everyone think ther right for one reason or another. I remember at my first sons baby shower (we knew it was a Boy) Thrown by my aunt who i had just recently met, as my mother was adopted. And this was her bio family. we were finished with all the gift giving and sitting around chatting. When my aunt suddenly mention that she was going to get a circ kit for me (Bandaging and ointment) she explained, well i will just have to get this myself since it is a boy. Well it was like she just grew a third i, but i didn't tell her she had a third eye. I looked at my mother, then my MIL and shared a smile with them. Knowing full well that i had there support. My father never had a circ, so mother knew full well that uncirced penis didn't have an additional eye. And my Mil who adpoted her son at 4mo. and decided when she recieved intact to leave him intact. So i did have really great support from them. Not to mention the father was intact. Now as far as the medical establishment, i had several looks at me as if i had an addition eye. When i was ready to check out, all my paperwork was done. So i paged the nurses desk to see what the hold up was. and i heard so loud on the speaker "your baby didn't have a circ did he" i responded with a "and he is not going to" I have to say i was so glad when i took him to his 2 week checkup. And the doctor commended me for not having him circed. I knew i liked her for even more reason now. But it was really great to here this from someone.

 

I'm another that DID have it done to my son as I mentioned previous. I have never regretted it, except I have been made to feel bad about it on forums such as this. I was with him while he had it done, he cried for a second, then nothing. I just had to put vaseline on the tip for 5 days, there were no bandages. It broke my heart to watch it, but it does when I vaccinate him too. Another choice we have to make ourselves as parents. He had it done on Monday and it was healed by Friday and looked perfect. I may be an awful mother for doing it, and I hope he doesn't hate me later for it (LOL or for his name). I had my son just as my best friend had to have her son circ'd at age 6 for deformities. And this passed summer, my nephew, who is schizophrenic, decided to circumcize himself. He is 27 years old and took a pocket knife to himself. Damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess. Like I mentioned previously, just feel confident in your decision.

Oh, I also never had problems breastfeeding my son, I'm not sure what that has to do with circumcizing him, but never a problem there.

Not to start even more controversy, but what do you think about piercing a baby girl's ears?

 

The whole "he won't look like daddy, he'll look different from other boys and be upset..." arguement is a lie and a myth...my boys don't stare at their dad's penis all day...in fact they rarely see it...and boys don't compare dicks all day either. If that's the case, we'd better start putting breast implants in little girls so they won't be upset that they don't look like their mother...

What infection? Tell me the name of the infection that uncut penises get, and site some sources. It isn't an open wound for crying out loud...

 

I really think that circumcision is an American thing. I'm originally from England and in Europe, circumcision is a religious issue, plain and simple. Very few other Europeans I know are circumcised, so if you don't do it, don't think you're doing something wrong, or even in the minority.

 

it's really good to hear more of both sides. i'm glad that you didn't have any problems and you're happy with your decision. I would hope that things go smoothly for most boys who are circumcised, but then theres so many scary horror stories about it. you shouldn't let forums like this make you feel bad. Its really a very personal choice, as you said. It easily goes both ways. (and i think your sons name is beautiful btw)

as for piercing a babys ears... i would be really on the fence about that too. In the beginning when we were thinking about having a girl i brought it up and the bf was strongly against it. and I was actually thinking the other day how this is slightly comparable to circumcising a boy. i guess it's easier to reverse, but really all the reasons are the same aren't they? for looks, for culture... idk. so it was kind of funny that i was the one for it and he was totally against it. i know it's not really the same at all, but its something to think about... if i had a girl i would definitely consider piercing her ears at a young age.

 

I wouldn't pierce my daughter's ears because she can't tell me if they are starting to become infected, they can tear her earlobe if they get caught in a cloth, shirt, or toy, and she's cute enough without them!

 

I look at piercing the same as circumsision. Its someone else's body, they're in control. I DO NOT WANT to control someone else's body. That is creepy, and wrong.

 

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking, ditto Hippyfreek too.

I wouldn't let it be done unless she expressed a serious want for them, understood the process, and would be able to keep up the maintanence herself.

 

I think my mom had a good rule for piercing. Even though her ears were pierced and she dug ear-piercing, she didn't pierce her girls. For the same reasons she didn't circ her boys, and for the same reasons stated above. She wouldn't allow us to be pierced until we were at least ten and decided we wanted it (and could care for it ourselves, and tell if it was infected, etc. We could request it as a tenth b-day present, or we could pay for it ourselves.

 

Something similar happened to me when i was a baby. My earring actually went all the way thru my ear so my mom ended up taking them out. But when I was about 4 or 5, I decided I wanted my ears pierced while my mom was out of the house. My older sister gladly did the honors, and I've had my ears pierced ever since!! My mom was so pissed when she got home LOL. Beware older siblings with needles!!

 

Circumsized boys have low risk in UTI's where as boys that are not circumsized have higher risk for it .. Do the math.. It all adds up..