differen't mushrooms = different trips?

Hello! I have never tried Mushrooms (or any Psychadelic for that matter), so my question is this; I am hoping to use mushrooms as a spiritual aid, and was wondering if defferent varieties are better for this, or if pretty much any psychadelic mushroom is best for this kind of journey? I have read a couple of really good articles including this one.


Is there anything else I should keep in mind? I am very open to suggestions, and I won't be offended if you call me an ignorant n00b, because I am one.

 

Psilocybe Cubensis are the most common and are probably what you'll end up buying on the street 9 times out of 10.

Yes, different strain = different trip

I have had wacky shrooms that made me feel straight up wierd

Ones that are very spiritual

and ones that had visuals that EXTREMELY resembled mayan and aztec art (circular type shit, hard to describe but infinitely cool)

 

There are differences between some of the different species. Some of them are subtle and some more apparent. I don't think this has been very well researched. Besides having psilocybin, there are other compounds in many mushrooms that would alter the experience.

 

I have a buddy that grows shrooms, and he has tried growing many different types, and he says different strains (even among just the cubensis) are noticeably different.
I can vouch for this, b+ (common) are not as nice as the texan variety of cubensis.
But it all depends what you are looking for. Texan is very visual, B+ is more of a body buzz.

 

I think it might be fun to take like two caps each from a couple different strains or whatever. Or maybe like split it 50/50.

 

so what it sounds like is that I want to look for is texan cubenses? I have a friend who does shrooms, but I don't know what kind he has access to. I will ask him. thankyou all very much.

 

I dont know what to believe. Psilocybin is psilocybin. It seems to me like psilo gives a wider range of trips than lsd in the difference between visuals and body feelings. Because ive had completely different trips from the same strain. Anyways might be wrong. Might be other substances in different strains that change the trip. But you project what you project, it starts in the brain chemistry than its up to you.

I think a cube is a cube. If you are to have a spiritual experience, any strain you will take will get you there...its all in your mind. The psychedelic experience is accesible even without drugs.You need the perfect mindset though , lsd and shrooms let you transcend without the perfect mindset what interesting substances.

You might notice that there are so much factors that make your trip different than the last one, its all hidden there in your subsconscious.

 

like weed....thc is thc, but different weed gives u different highs, so id say definitly, different strains are have different trips, but the one and only time i tripped i tripped on cubinsis or w/e its called.

 

As with herb and mushrooms, there is more then just one chemical that is effecting your experience. Respectively, thc and psilocybin are the main active compounds but both contain several others.

 

Im fairly sure that all factors in growing shrooms effect the trip/quality/potency, substrates used corn rice wheat rye verm im sure they can all some how produce a different end product.

cubensis b+ more of a body buzz? ive got a spore syringe in my cupboard just need to get the kitchen to my self for a day and ill set it up

 

Yup they definately will give you different trips because they contain different quantities of active alkaloids that will make you trip. Most people get dried p. cubensis especially if you are buying them at a concert or on the street however if you look hard in the right places, know the right people or go to somewhere like Amsterdam you can get your hands on strains like Amazonians or Cyaceanseans (sp?) that will be unlike any other mushrooms you've ever ingested. 2 very powerful and cool strains. Also Fly Agaric mushrooms (Amanita Muscaria) is another type of hallucinogenic mushroom however I dont believe it contains psilocybin and the fresh mushroom is fatally toxic. The dried Fly Agaric gives you some pretty weird effects... I havent had the balls to give it a try. Its the one that is red with white spots, you see it in Alice in Wonderland and most fantasy stories. I guess its kinda mystical and has historically been used by many shamans.
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Uh oh! looks like I started some disgussion here! maybe this should be a poll?

 

I think most people in this thread agree that different mushrooms = different trips. The debate comes into play because of a lack of knowledge (within the scientific community) regarding what it is that makes people's trips so vastly different. Is it only set and setting? Is it the alkaloids you ingested? Or is it both and how do we tell? My obsession with mycology lets me look at different strains and give you a straight scientific answer... the alkaloids in each strain of mushroom are different and that is why you are going to have a different "psychadelic" experience from different strains; however, personal experience tells me that your mind frame at the time of ingestion and the setting you are in while you trip vastly alter ones trip. I think ALL psychadelic mushrooms have the potential to produce spiritual and enlightening experiences if that is your intention going into the trip. Even if cubensis tend to give you a more somatic or sensual feeling than a visual one... I dont think it is necessarily the visions that make a mushroom trip spiritual. I think it is the thought process... if anything the visual aspect of tryptamines can sometimes be confusing and hard to decipher.

 

*I dont think it is necessarily the visions that make a mushroom trip spiritual. I think it is the thought process.*

You're right I guess . Personally, in the descent , not the elevation. as the thought process get in lets say, spiritual awareness, the visuals become the most beautiful they cant be, the more I approach the revelation the more the visions become perfect and just so delicate. Until all the visuals *cells* just dissapear and light starts to shine, if something gets my attention though bam back home. Man, i came to conclusion, must be hard, but you can trip sober, you just have to find the way. No simple highway like they said.

In the come up, seems like a diver with a divign board that it gradually in some way lowering closer to the water, you dont need to gain all the awareness thats starts with a few insights, dont need the dive, its gettin you there for free.


but on another note has anyone tried synthetic psilocybin here??? would be interesting to see the difference between its effect, and when its mixed with lots more substances in a mushroom.

 

Albert Hofmann talked about the extraction of and synthesizing of psilocybin, he said that the trip was fairly similar to his experiences with LSD, although there were strange visions of native art instead. Pure psilocybin is structurally similar to LSD, so I would say that the psilo produces the main effect (plain trippin) and the other chemicals contribute to the confusion or whatever else you feel.

 

Well psilocin which is structurally similar to psilocybin will make you trip on its own... and in most hallucinoginic mushrooms there are varying combinations of both psilocybin and psilocin along with other alkaloids that will also make you "trip" including alkaloids that are very structurally similar to 2,2 Dimethyltryptamine or DMT but you are right the main active chemical in most psychadelic mushrooms is Psilocybin. And not to refute what you are saying but I'm kind of curious when psilocybin was synthesized because I was under the impression that it was a lot harder to synthesize than LSD or even phenthylamines like Mescaline, and was it Albert Hoffman who did the original psilocybin synthesis?

 

Albert Hoffman and colleagues were the first to isolate and indentify psilocybin and psilocin from Psilocybe Mexicana mushrooms. After working out the structure of it, they worked out a synthesis for it. His colleagues were Dr. Arthur Brack, Dr. Albert Frey, Dr. Hans Kobel, Dr. Hans Ott, Dr. Theodor Petrzilka and Dr. Franz Troxler.

 

Thanks a ton for the info!

 

indeed! most helpful!