Meditteranean diet

Discussion in 'So you want to be a Vegetarian?' started by ginseng23, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. ginseng23

    ginseng23 Member

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    The vegetarian style diet i agree is good and it emphasizes basically everything the Meditteranean diet suggests: Lots of Fruits and Vegs, nuts/seeds, and whole grains and limiting the use of saturated fats( found in dairy and animal products). I understand some vegans don't eat dairy but some do.

    Its quite obvious that most animal foods are unhealthy in comparison to most plant foods that are healthy, but there are exceptions as with alot of things.

    Coconuts or Coconut milk is a plant food but also contains alot of Saturated fat while most fish are low in saturated fat and high in Polyunsaturated which is a good fat.


    What I couldn't do though is give up fish because it tastes too good and is good for you. Chicken also I couldn't give up. Seafood is good too occasionally.

    Beef and Pork and hotdogs and other crap like that I can live without.

    I might be still considered an omnivore but I don't think one needs to eliminate all meats to be healthy.

    Even if I became a strict vegetarian It wouldnt be because i cant stand eating another living thing it would be since its healthier.

    Alot of studies have shown that vitamin B12 is hard to obtain in a vegetarian diet but I found a plant that contains.

    What is even more unusual is that it is a terrestrial plant and not an algae or spirulina( marine/aquatic plants)

    Ashitaba which is a native Angelica from Coastal Japan is said to contain B12
     
  2. Sage-Phoenix

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    "I understand some vegans don't eat dairy but some do."
    Nope, by definition (one who abstains from the use or consumption of animal products) vegans don't eat dairy. I think the word you're looking for is vegetarian.

    Can't honestly remember the last time I ate coconuts. They are used sparingly in veg cooking overall so not a problem really. I'm sure saturated fats have some inherent use, so small doses can't be too bad.
    Fish you can easily do without, there are plenty of equally healthy plant based protein sources without all the toxins fish absorb from our polluted seas and such. Incidentally most cases of food poisioning are the result of consuming seafood, so it's not always that great for us.

    Yeah whatever. I personally chose to put ethics and the good of non-humans above my want for 'tasty foods' (not that I can even remember what fish or chicken taste like, and I haven't missed them) but hey it's your concience and all.

    Yes you are indeed an omnivore.
    Of course there are many healthy omnivores out there (I used to be one), just as there are veg*ans who manage to exist on junk. No diet is a sure fire way to good health, but studies have indicated that a balanced veg diet can be very beneficial.

    Fair enough I suppose. My motivations are pretty much entirely ethical, but ultimatly if less animals are being killed for whatever reasons it's still progress.

    Oh well I guess basically every website and book regarding veg*an diets missed that memo, because they provide plenty of useful information in that respect. http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nutrition/b12/ (just one example)
    Plenty of foods are supplimented with B12 as a matter of course, because levels are dropping in meat owing to [supposedly] more sanitary production processes (animals obtain their B12 from bacteria in the food they eat), so it's no big deal really.

    Hmm that's interesting.
     
  3. Avocado Noni

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    IT does seem a lot more natural to include a couple animal products in your diet to get b12 instead of taking a synthetic supplement. I don't think humans were ever vegans naturally in the wild...not that I think veganism is a bad idea for some people, or that veganism is not great for the planet right now..I just don't think it is the ideal healthy diet for all people(like those with fast metabolic rates who need heavier and more concentrated food, like animal food) plus the amounts of soy and carbohydrates(bread+grain) most vegans consume is uncanny and not healthy at all in my opinion.

    With that said, I still think it's best to source out the most cruelty-free animal products. I>E cage-free omega-3 containing egggs. Eggs are basically a chicken period waste product and you can easily harvest them without harming the chicken at all. That seems like a more gentle way to go than eating a fish, though I would agree a couple kinds of fish are probably the healthiest meats to eat if you are going to partake in that. You have to be very discerning about what kind of fish you eat I think.

    Also, I don't think coconut fat is bad for you. Coconut builds hormones and DHEA and other necesary nutrients in the body. I eat coconut oil in my food almost every other day when I am at home.

    Coconut water is also the most electrolyte rich beverage on the entire planet. There is no way that is bad for you...Hydration is a huge key to good health, and coconuts provide that better than anything else : ) The word coconut means "all that is needed to live" Coconuts are fatty and they can keep you satiated for long periods of time while also giving you a sustained energy source. In certain stages of coconut growth, the meat is also a good source of protein.
     

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