John the Baptist

sorry, jsut thought id vent some pent up frustration by saying


CHRISTIANS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS

who beleive in stories that cant be proven false, falling into their own stupid traps and living happy yet ignorant lives.

life isnt meant to be nice and miraculous and how you dumbos want it to be, its meant to be confusing and conflicting, and is so much more complex than your childrens stories that it cannot be explained in simple human terms to you simple humans.

not sorry if ive offended you, but yeh thats how it is.

jsut had to get it out after reading some posts and tlaking to a strong christian recently. i could of course go on about all the reasons why your religion is a simple tool to rationalise life and remove natural probability, but i wont caus i know were all bored of the idiotic religious answers that will come.

what would YOU do if all the bibles in teh world were destroyed? along with all written evidence of any parts of the bible? waht would YOU follow?

 

To me, there is nothing more hilarious than seeing someone 'thinking themselves smart' and proceeding to 'refute' a completely mistaken presumption.


Your possibly the most hilarious poster yet!

Congrats!

 

Life is 'meant to be confusing and conflicting' - meant by who? God?

 

brocktoon id liek you to show te mistake i made,


and blackbill thates exactly the kind of over rationalisation im tlaking about. rationalising thgisn to human emotions or understanding. life has no meaning, when i said its meant to be that way, im speaking in human terms not physical terms.

what the hell am i doing here anyway

and i know plenty about christianity, i was baptised a catholic, lived with greek orthadox grandparents for some years, went to catholic school for too many years, and all otehr schools have tought religion too. i even attended bible study groups for a year to understand you silly people more. so dont try to tell me im an ignorant athiest.

 

StonerBill...it's best not to argue with christians. Just nod and smile. Some people need delusions to give life meaning.

 

catholic, greek orthodox. not christian.
that's like saying you travelled all over europe, so you know all about north america. it doesn't connect so think somemore before you go calling christians ignorant, or thoughtless.

 

hang on so your saying catholics, greek orthadox, and uniting church are not christian? dude your fucked... its nothing like comparing places, its more like saying

'ive had coke and pepsi'

and then you saying

'nar man youve only had coke and pepsi, you havnt had Homebrand Cola, that's like saying you travelled all over europe, so you know all about north america. it doesn't connect so think somemore before you go calling christians ignorant, or thoughtless.'

your logic there would fit maybe if i said i knew lots about islam and judaism or somehting.

 

Catholic traditions and Christianity aren't exactly the same thing.

 

VERY true.

 

Everyone forgot to notice the idiot calling us idiots. I myself find it hard to understand exactly what it is he is trying to say. I understand typos and what not. Hell I often misspell words myself...but come on.

Now, putting the obvious aside. Let's look at his arguments. I believe most here see the same in that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Just by trying to read his claims, I can see he is confused. Perhaps a few more years and he will be mature enough to do the research needed to boast a claim like his.

Oh yeah, and I forgot this part, made me laugh:

If they can't be proven false as he says...that would make us right.

 

Well since you must have all the answers, and we christians are Idiots. Maybe you could answer a question for me. See I believe in Noahs flood but im sure you believe that's just a stupid Bible story. Well if that is the case, could you explain why they are finding pillar lava at the 14,000 foot altitude on Mt. Ararat. You see, pillar Lava only can form when a volcanic vent is submerged below water. My thinking is, if there was no world wide flood, then someone must of carried all that pillar lava up there. Remember I just one of those Christian Idiots, and I don't understand things like this. What do you think?

 

argh so frustrating,

my comment that they cant be proven false perhaps needed explination but its pretty much going to say that .. oh ill just tgive an analogy

a murderer kills a man, perfect crime

they cant prove him guilty

period


and i forgot, in my rage, to mention how you like you think that since some things in the bible are prolly true, i personally beleive jesus was perhaps a very real person, but you assume then that this means god is real. finding a place where somehting happened, for one thing, is not proof of a god, and it is most probably true that tehre was a great flood. but by giving these thigns the motives of a god, when you can put down the old people of ancient greek times (jsut one example) for their stories and whatnot and beleif in gods, it jsut turns an intellectual into an idiot.

how do you chose to be a chrisitan anyway? dont you realise that if you were brought up in a hindu family that you would be hindu, and think nothing of god?

 

i agree with stonerbill on a lot, most christians are fanatics who shove there religion down everyones throat and preach that i'm going to burn in hell cuz i smoke pot and trip and what not. I believe there is a god, but i don't believe in one specific religion, i don't know what he/she/ or it is but there is something, whether it be the spirits of nature (which i lean toward most) or jesus christ whom if i don't worship and do everything his way he'll send me to burn in a lake of fire for eternity. And don't throw something in my face how i'm un educated, i grew up in a christian home, i've been to 2 christian schools and all of my family are christians. And catholocism, greek orthodox and christianity might as well be the same damn thing except that catholics can't get married so they fuck little alter boys, dirty old men. And it is pointless trying to talk to a christian because they REFUSE and i will say it again R-E-F-U-S-E to think about or even TRY just the littles bit to see it another way, christians think ghandi is burning in hell as is John Lennon, yeah they were like the biggest fucking peace people in the world, but because they dont' believe in jesus christ all mighty they burn in hell. And let me say one more thing John Lennon and Ghandi (whether they use psychedelics to expand there minds or not, honestly i really dont care, i think more people should use them) were better people than most christians i know, the christians and other religions go on and on about how we have to be like jesus, what would jesus do, jesus didn't judge others by how they looked and what they chose to do, but christians do because the bible also says to judge others, the bible contradicts itself. I mean god John Lennon was more like jesus than the christians i know, he was kind, he represented freedom and peace and love and thats what he stood for, unity of all the races, acceptance and world peace and stop all the fighitng, most the christians i know, are shallow, into there own lives, and don't give a shit about anyone else except themselves and the church. I gave up on christianity for a reason, because the people there are hypocrites, they say love everyone and except everyone but they do exactly the opposite, me and my other stoner fuck tripping friends act more jesus like than them for christ sake. I just can't stand christianity, and shit why do i want a dictator god who says you'll burn in hell if you dont' except me into your lives and worship me and live your life for me, ummmmm...... don't you think your being a little bit selfish.

 

i dont mean to sound attacking to you (though i do to you mangy christians) but doesnt the fact that you beleive in a god but not in religions make you think that maybe your only beleiving in a god because a god helps you rationalise your world and gives everything a purpose? i think people like you are the key to my religion-root theory which relates to human's instinctive fear of death

 

So -life is meant by human beings to be confusing etc? That simply makes no sense. You made a 'rational' statement, I am only commenting on it.

 

The lava pillar proves nothing with regard to the biblical story. It can't be true for a number of reasons. 1-The dimensions described for the ark are too big - a wooden boat of that size would break up as soon as it was in the water.
2- Animals from other and then undiscovered continents could not have been saved. 3 - Noah's progeny would have rapidly deteriorated into in-bred idiots (perhaps thats what happened though!)
I'm not saying that at some time in the middle east there wasn't a flood, there are stories from other civilizations of this, but that doesn't mean the bible story can be taken as literal truth.

 

ok. in this context, im referring to teh fact that christians beleive that life is rationalised by a god, and that its meant to be. im merely using teh same terms of being 'meant to be' to make the link. in the model i follow, life has no meaning, no purpose, it is the result of natural probability and the absolutely huge size of teh universe allowing for thigns of even the smallest probability to occur.


and i dont mean in teh sense of chaos and disorder and sicne tehres no meaning i should take drugs and kill people and myself. thats the standard theological take on the model, ive found.

 

If thats what you think, then I doubt you're going to have much constructive dialogue with Christians or any other group who believe in a purposive universe.

 

Here is the problem.

Stonerbill and his mate Whiterabbit are barely above the level of blathering flamers.
They are basically trying to 'bog down' real adult-level discussions with these retard level flame baits.

Im supposed to believe Stonerbill 'knows a lot' about Christianity when he cant get through one sentence without some ridiculous false accusation not even worthy of recognition.

There are other critics posting here much more deserving of our time.
and we Christians should not 'lower' the level of debate either - besides.. they are NOT here to try to discuss anything anyway.

Just some thoughts

 

I would like to point out that the word "the" is spelled T H E, not T E H. See, we Christians are not all idiots. Looks like the non believer court has a few on their team as well.

Ok, so you don't believe in creation or in God. So, I am a Christian, convert me to your side. Prove to me the world wasn't created by God. Prove to me that Jesus did not die on a cross for yours and my salvation. Get busy sir, you have to explain the last 6,000 years to me.