"North American Union" a major 2008 issue?

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  1. Gravity

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    Coalition mobilizes grass roots, targets Washington lawmakers

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    A coalition united by its determination to stop efforts to merge the U.S. into a North American Union is organizing a grass-roots effort to make it an issue in 2008, vowing to campaign against any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who won't side with them.

    Spearheaded by Conservative Caucus Chairman Howard Phillips; WND columnist and author Jerome Corsi; and activist Phyllis Schlafly, leaders of the 50-member coalition held an event at the National Press Club yesterday, expressing support for a proposed congressional resolution that denounces any effort by the U.S. to enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

    Corsi said lawmakers need to be held accountable, and the plan, along with calling for a congressional investigation, is to train members of Schlafly's Eagle Forum to lobby on Capitol Hill when the 100th Congress convenes in January.

    "We want to make it a major issue of the 2008 campaign," Corsi said. "The coalition will work to oppose any candidate who doesn't sign on, Republicans and Democrats alike."

    The resolution – sponsored by Republican Reps. Virgil Goode Jr. of Virginia, Tom Tancredo of Colorado, Walter Jones of North Carolina, and Ron Paul of Texas – expresses "the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union (NAU) with Mexico and Canada."

    Monday, Corsi announced the Internet release of about 1,000 documents obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. He says the documents show the White House is engaging in collaborative relations with Mexico and Canada outside the U.S. Constitution.

    The documents can be viewed here, on a special website set up by the Minuteman Project.

    Corsi told WND the coalition, which now numbers about 50 leaders, is calling for a congressional investigation.

    "We'd like to see both the House and the Senate in the 110th Congress conduct a serious investigation and get full disclosure from SPP of all documents," he said. "If the Bush administration wants to continue to deny that we're on the same track that Europe went on to create the European Union and the euro, then there should be no harm in full disclosure."

    Otherwise, he continued, "I'm charging they are secretly on the path to create a North American Union, a new currency – the amero – along the same stealth path that was used in Europe, keeping everything below the radar, by administrative decree, making it to late to stop before the American people finally realize what's gong on."

    Phillips, who has been chairman of the public-policy Conservative Caucus since 1974, told WND "this could be the most important project on which we've ever worked."

    "It's incredible that a project of this magnitude with such potential fatal consequences to American's status as an individual republic should get this far without serious public debate and consideration," said, Phillips, who was one of the founders of the U.S. Taxpayers Party, which changed its name to the Constitution Party in 1999.

    He was the party's presidential candidate in the 1992, 1996 and 2000 elections.

    The resolution Phillips is promoting reads, in part:

    • Whereas, according to the Department of Commerce, United States trade deficits with Mexico and Canada have significantly widened since the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA);
    • Whereas the economic and physical security of the United States is impaired by the potential loss of control of its borders attendant to the full operation of NAFTA;
    • Whereas a NAFTA Superhighway System from the west coast of Mexico through the United States and into Canada has been suggested as part of a North American Union;
    • Whereas it would be particularly difficult for Americans to collect insurance from Mexican companies which employ Mexican drivers involved in accidents in the United States, which would increase the insurance rates for American drivers;
    • Whereas future unrestricted foreign trucking into the United States can pose a safety hazard due to inadequate maintenance and inspection, and can act collaterally as a conduit for the entry into the United States of illegal drugs, illegal human smuggling, and terrorist activities;
    • Whereas a NAFTA Superhighway System would be funded by foreign consortiums and controlled by foreign management, which threatens the sovereignty of the United States.

    The resolution calls for the House of Representatives to agree on three issues of determination:

    1. The United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System;
    2. The United States should not enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada; and
    3. The President should indicate strong opposition to these or any other proposals that threaten the sovereignty of the United States.

    "As important as this resolution is," Corsi said, "we need still more congressional attention. Where is congressional oversight of SPP? We need congressional hearings, not just congressional resolutions."

    H.Con.Res.487 has been referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure and to the Committee on Internal Relations for consideration prior to any debate that may be scheduled on the floor of the House of Representatives.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am still amazed that this didn't become an all out issue in this last election. I heard a few callers to C-Span ask different people about it. And they were shined on, told they knew nothing about SPP. How can that been. These people are our legislators and SPP documents have been posted on the Government site for over six months. Are they waiting for it to become a fact accompli, before they acknowledge that it's happening NOW!
     
  3. Shane99X

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    London stock trader urges move to 'amero'
    [size=+1]Says many unaware of plan to replace dollar with N. American currency[/size]



    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53124
     
  5. Shane99X

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    "Border? What Border?"
     
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  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Why would it be an election issue if both parties are behind it? None of these politicians represent America.... at least not the ones who get elected. Besides, the media is controlled. Why would they want to blow their own cover? This just shows how serious and secretive this is. Keep in mind the Europeans were not allowed to know about the EU until it came to fruition. The same global elitists who gave us the EU are behind the NAU, and they're using the same dirty tricks to bring it about, which the public just cannot know about.
     
  8. sentient

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    Whats wrong with unionisation? You already got a 50 states all thats being proposed is that you add a few more and have a new singular currency
    Of course the real political debate is going on in the countries around the usa that definitely want to stay separate from the usa -

    Actually I just answered my own question - screw it dont unionise either the north or the whole of the continent - this is just a USA attempt to derail the revolutions that are happening against capitalism and is something that shouldnt be stopped

    Anyone inside the USA that says they dont want to unionise will be called a commie because that will be seen as helping the south american countries toward anticapitalism - youre gonna get called unpatriotic whichever side you take
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The problem is that there is always an agenda behind these moves toward centralization. Most people think it would be great if we could just unite the world and there would be no more wars. Everyone would live in peace. Most people don't understand that the people running the show have a much different mindset than the public, who are sold this vision of global unity which is a farce when you consider the people behind it, who want to microchip everyone and basically turn the planet into one big plantation. Just look around you at the direction we're heading, which is an Orwellian, fascistic society, where the few dominate the many. This isn't just happening here in the US, it's happening EVERYWHERE.

    The North American Union will be just another major step towards a world government, currency and military. We saw this with the EU, which the Europeans were not allowed to know about until after it came to pass. Much like the Europeans had no say in the EU, the Mexicans, Canadians and Americans are having no say in this NAU, which they are constructing behind our backs, which the media is ignoring.

    The centralization of power in the hands of fewer and fewer people is NEVER a good thing. This always results in tyranny and enslavement for the people.
     
  10. spooner

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    This is just anti-NAFTA fear-mongering.
     
  11. Leopold Plumtree

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    I can't say I'm entirely opposed to the idea. In fact, I kinda like it.
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, then have fun getting your implanted microchip and being a slave on the global plantation. I guess some people enjoy licking boots.
     
  13. Leopold Plumtree

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    North American Union automatically equals subdermal microchip.

    Oh sure.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah! It's all part of the agenda, buddy. It's obvious you haven't done your homework.

    Try turning off MTV and doing some reading before you decide to support something you know NOTHING about. Your reading this post is probably the first time you've even heard mention of the NAU. You don't have a fucking clue, pal!

    If it was so fucking great, then how come it's being carried out behind our backs and ignored by the corporate controlled media?

    You really think these globalist scum want what's best for you, huh?

    Please, get a fucking clue.
     
  15. Leopold Plumtree

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    Wow, even more wild speculation on your part, this time about me.

    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175198
     
  16. spooner

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    Yeah... It's actually becoming less integrated. IE: Canadians and Americans now require passports to enter one another's states. Non-tariff barriers are on the rise, halting trade. Trade relations are breaking down.
     
  17. Pepik

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    That's hilarious. Its amazing anyone would believe this.

    Spooner is right. This is right wing scaremongering which has a primarily protectionist agenda. It mostly reminds me of the "draft" scare which crops up every few months. There's no draft, there's never going to be one, but every once in a while the scaremongers tell us its coming.

    Its funny that all the anti-government types like Shane and Rat are so horrified by the prospect of deregulation of trade. They are anti-government, except that they want the government to seal our economy off from Mexico. Even a cross border highway is enough to get them hiding under the bed.
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    If Mexico is such a great trade partner why are their poor and unemployed flooding the American market?

    Why is the American portion of the trancontinental highway being built in the US by a Spanish firm with long time legal oversight? We don't have US firms that can construct such a highway?
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Those of you that are serious about learning about it check out our governments site:

    http://www.spp.gov/

    American's were not allowed to vote on it. It's already taking place in secret.

    Security Prosperity Partnership...funny that it's going ahead at the same time that many Americans are worried about the security of our southern border.
     
  20. heeh2

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    ok.....well i read alot of stuff their and it directly contredicts almost every reason you hate it.....
     
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