O, Tannenbaum

Discussion in 'So you want to be a Vegetarian?' started by mlo, Nov 27, 2006.

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  1. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

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    yea but it takes like 3 months to grow veggies but a loooooong time to grow a tree. and the only purpose veggies have is nourishment, where as trees filter toxins and create oxygen. to cut them down for asthetic reasons that youll only use like a week out of the year seems wasteful to me :(
     
  2. hummblebee

    hummblebee hipstertist.

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    I agree on that one, Lucy. It seems like growing something for years just so you can kill it for decorative purposes... is just a little crappy and selfish. But on the other hand, I need veggies to survive, I eat all the edible parts of them, and they only grew for a few weeks/months before I participated in killing them. (I guess that doesn't sound like a good thing when put that way - hows this - they can, then be re-grown, replaced, etc, within the same period...)...
    I like trees - I wish I owned property so I could plant a whole forest of 'em! :D
     
  3. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    personally, as a gardener, i see no problem with cut Christmas trees, as long as they don't end up in the dump. i pull weeds, lots and lots of weeds every season. i grow annual, and perennial flowers, and cut them for bouquets and ornamental displays around my house. i kill/pull dozens of vegetable/fruit plants every season, for the good of the the rest of the plants. personally, i am, directly and indirectly responsible for hundreds, if not 1000 plant deaths every year, and I'm not really concerned about it what so ever.
    farmers farm for a reason, to provide a service and to make an income. there would be no Christmas tree farms if there where no want for them... if there was no want for them, the farm land in which they grow on would be used for either for farming something else or for urban sprawl. during the time they grow, before they are cut, the trees help reduce the amount of Co2 in the air which is great! after they are cut, they bring cheer to the people that have them, then they can be composted and made into mulch.

    as far as the plastic, real thing goes.... plastic trees are made from PVC, they cant be recycled, and WILL end up in a land fill, leaching out the lead and toxic chemicals from the PVC.
    Real trees are reusable/recyclable, which makes them, IMO, a hundred times better than plastic trees.
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    a tree farm is a space with trees of several ages. the six year old trees get cut and that section becomes the seedling beds. that years' 5 year old trees are shaped and such. that's alo where a fair amount of the greenery comes from for wreaths and swags.
    Depending on why the land is a tree farm, I'm okay withh them, and thinning in the forests, which I've tagged along on. you can barely tell the cutters were allowed in.
    if the land was clear cut for paper/lumber, I have a problem with it.
    if the parcel was wiped out by insects, then a few years as a xmas tree concession is probably OK.
    private land I'm ok with as long as the hortoculture is not wasteful in water or overuse of chemicals.

    willy wonka is right, it's a crop.
    a crop that gets to clean air for 5-6 years, and reduce the amount of landfill trash and petrochemical manufacture for fake trees.
     
  5. lucyinthesky16

    lucyinthesky16 pirate wench

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    yea i have no problem with tree farms, i have a lot around where i live. i have no problem with people with fresh cut trees either. but personally it just sorta depresses me. and willy wonka you make a good point about fake trees, feel kinda bad about owning one now :( but unfortunately i still live with my mother and she had a bad experience with a cut tree-basically it exploded, needles EVERYWHERE lol but we've been using the same tree since i was about 7 and its getting some bare spots X_X
     
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