How dangerious is 2c-b? There are certain factors which seem to point to a drug being dangerous such as: - Long-term tolerance that never goes away. ie. MDMA looses some of it's "magic" after being used multiple times - If the drug is quite similiar in effect to another drug which is known to have harmful effects (if 2c-b works similiarly to DXM, by shutting down the brain slowly...) - If mega-doses can cause health problems - If prolonged and repeated use causes health problems all of the sign point to no (right?), is it more or less safe to assume that 2c-b is (reasonably) safe?? p.s. 2c-b doesn't have any effect on dopamine, does it?
Hmmm, I'm not sure at all, but I would greatly assume that 2C-B has some effect on dopamine. I would also say it is somewhat safe, but not reasonably. Who really knows at this point?
2cb affect seratonin as well. so it will have an effect on that. it will lose its magic with abuse. but every drug out there loses magic with abuse. i would not try it with dex. dex sucks ass and fucks up your brain
2C-B is safe in comparison to many other 2c-s. I wouldnt worry about an OD, from some reports and what Flow has said its safe up to 200-300mg.
A problem with 2C-B, and RCs in general, is that there is little to no research on them in regards to human interaction. So far as I know there is no long term tolerance unless abused horribly, 'mega' doses do not kill, it is not similar to dxm, it DOES effect your dopamin and your seratonin, but there are many many ways these to receptors can be utilised, you know?
I agree, but it's not really that funny. In America, as well as most of the rest of the world, it seems like ignorance is bliss when it comes to "drugs." Anything that could remotely "B" (lol) seen as a recreational drug is villainized and banned, despite the positive things that could come from it's use. It's bullshit, fascism, capitalism, all of the above. That's the land of the free for you.
It DOES affect dopamine? are you sure? do you have a source? if 2c-b is a dopamine antagonist, i would definitely stop taking it, I don't want it to give me tolerance to my Adderall. I'm not worried about an OD, or getting my brain completely fried after eating it every day for a week. I'm worried about more subtle things like nerve damage. For instance if DXM was a 2c (and less was known about it), I'm sure people would say that it is completely safe like 2c-b (no overdoses, and no obvious side effects from long term use). I suppose I could be asking, what is the maximum ammount of harm 2c-b could do or be doing to people? I know it's comparitively minimal, but how minimal? I'm partly looking for personal stories where people say "2c-b totally fucked up my sense of metaphors". No news is good news.
2c-b is probably one of the most safe 2c-x out there. DXM isn't that horrible for you really.....it doesn't slowly shut the brain down to the best of my knowing.
DXM is pretty bad for you, when I was younger I went through a period of abuse with many of my peers, I noticed that those who used it daily had some long term disruption to their linguistic skills, although now, a few years later they seem to be normal again. My experience was that it made me super egoentric, while at the same time causing me to believe I was egoless. Mushrooms said it best "Be careful of the DXM it lies to you." As far as the dopamine activity I'm pretty sure there that it is very mild if existant at all. Just because something has a stimulant like effect does not mean its affecting your dopamine. A great example is LSD, it has a stimulant type effect to it, makes it hard to sleep and your mind races, how ever there is no effect on dopamine with this drug. I'm going to see if I can find some of the journals I read a few months ago... Believe it or not there have been receptor site binding studies with these drugs. -MOR
The ADD forum on bluelight is full of links to such studies, for those interested in that kind of thing.