Looking for some feedback from experienced users. I have been using generic percs (5-325) by rx for some time now to control pain, but have also really enjoyed the "slight warm buzzy" feeling just as much (if not more). What started out as 1 every 6 hrs went to 1.5 every 6, then 2 every 6hrs, 1 every 4hrs, 1.5 every 4hrs and so on to get the same effect, which I am sure many of you are all too familiar with. Problem with that progression thing is that here lately I've been popping 2 every 4hrs with another one split in half about 1hr in, then the other half 2hrs in. Guess in short that's 3 every 4hrs and I've been experiencing some other side effects that I am assuming are from the increased acetaminophen intake (stomach upset, chalky throat feeling, etc). I've actually found from reading other posts that I have been exceeding the daily max of acet. for a few days now...taking anywhere from 12-15 pills a day. I've read many posts about CWE and drinking, snorting, and some other stuff, but am...well I guess what I'm looking for is advice on what's the best way for me to get the stuff my body craves w/o the other crap. I am an inexperienced drug user period (smoked weed pretty regularly for a couple years but not latelyand that's about it) and am scared to death of overdosing, I also have a morbid fear of needles. I thought about getting my Dr. to up my rx to 10-325 so I can get the level of oxy my body wants w/o the high levels of acet. I have to get with the 5's. Is that my best bet? I don't have access to the Oxycontins or higher dosages of oxycodone that I've seen others talking about. I have a very good relationship with the Dr. so is there anything else I could try? If I CWE (which is the route I'm leaning) 2 5-325 pills and drink it, is that the same as swallowing 2 pills but w/o the acet. or is different??? Sorry for the long post and maybe some noob type questions, but it looks like there are some experienced, knowledgeable users on the forum and I would really appreciate any feedback.
ive done CWE with hydrocodone never with oxy though. im assuming it works the same though u might go for it.
I am by no means an expert, but it seems logical to me that if it works for hydro it would for oxy too. It's my understanding they are very similar (same origin and all) with one just a little stronger. What I am completely unsure of is what to do with the oxy-water combo you have after extraction. Do you drink that? Seems like it might taste nasty, can you mix it with juice or something to spruce it up? Is that the 'tea' I hear see people mention? Do you try to evaporate the water and then take what's left like you would the pills? But most importantly and what scares me the most, is how much to take after extracting. Can you assume a 1:1 mg ratio with oxy before and after extracting (2 5-325 before = 10mg oxy after)? I'm afraid to extract like 2.5 or 3 pills and drink it (if that's what you do) only to find it's more potent in that form, or much less or whatever. Ugh...sssooo many questions. I know I'm a noobie idiot when it comes to this stuff. I can feel the shaking of heads and snorts as I type
Read up on how to do the extraction, I posted it on here somewhere, or you can go on erowid. Yes it will work for oxy, and yes, just drink the solution after the extraction is done, and yes it will be nasty as fuck, and yes you most definitely can mix it with whatever to ease the taste. It will not be more potent, in fact you'll most likely lose about 10-20% of the oxy in the extraction your first time. Also, don't worry so much about overdosing, I'm pretty sure you can take at LEAST 20-30mg at once without having to worry at all about it, especially if you've grown a slight tolerance. If you're really worried, just don't go over 30mg. Don't worry about being a newbie to this, we were all newbies at some point.
Thx for the post dude...I really appreciate it. You hit my most major concerns. Some of it seemed like it should be common sense, but I don't think you can be too carefull/cautious with this kinda thing and needed some reassurance from someone who's been there ya know? I ended up seeing the dr like 2 days after I posted and he wrote me script for 10-325's, so that addressed the immediate daily APAP concerns I had. I did end up finding that post on the extraction though too and think I have a handle on it. Picked up some supplies (like filters since I don't do coffee) and am gonna give it a shot this weekend. I find it really interesting and can't wait to try it out especially now that you've eased my mind a little. Thanks again dude....you rule.
No problem man, I totally understand where you're comming from. The first few times I did the water extraction I was so scared that I might have fucked it up. The whole trip I was like "omg, I think I feel my liver failing." How ignorant I was... By the way, you're a lucky bastard I havent had access to percs or vikes in many many months.
Talk to your doctor about meds that have NO APAP in them. You can get C-2 Hydrocodone, or your doctor could move you up to Oxy with no APAP in it. You may still have to wean off the hydro if you go that route, as the two drug do not always cancel each other's withdrawals completely. Also, with an extraction, you always lose some hydro or oxy in the process, so it really isn't worth it.
I take 2-3 40 MG Oxycontins a day and then about 10 5 MG 100% Oxycodone. I got my Dr to script it WITH OUT the tylnol. Also get the 5 MG's in CAP form. They are a hoot to snort. Then fill up the bong with some exotic and trust me you will love the head. I eat a gel tab of 25 or shrooms if it's a party night. But if you are just getting into this-DO NOT use what I am taking as a guide. Start off small so you have room to move.
do yourself a favor and stop RIGHT NOW. opiates are a fucking bitch. just smoke some kind if you hafta get abuzz on. alcohol, hallucinogens, opiates, narcotics, nicotine...these things will KILL you...eventually it'll be endgame for you. i have never met a single person (myself included) that ever regretted quitting. i know people that rail several 40s a day...and they are fucking miserable. don't EVER get involved with a substance that your body is eventually going to REQUIRE for you to feel happy and normal. PLEASE listen to me. I've been there and i know.
Some people can handle themselves. Like me, I no longer take opiates, but when I did I kept it very responsible and never over did it, well the few times I did, I felt so bad and guilty for having done so, that I wouldnt even take them, let alone crave them, for weeks at a time. I had my phase with the H and morphine, and I recently, like 3 weeks ago recently, cut out cold turkey, and have had no problems since.
yeah, you know it's funny- as much as i've looooooved doing drugs in my life, i was always TERRIFIED of becoming an addict, so i would use for a few days, stop for a week etc. after a couple of years the merry go round wasn't so merry anymore...anybody who can go thru life without any ill effects my hat is off to. just remember that the road is littered with the fallen who thought they could handle things too...many of them famous people. now i'm just about the KIND and that's it. i won't even drink a beer anymore.
...i also made it my solemn pledge that I was going to be the one calling the shots- not johnny law, not the courts, not some rehab do-gooder bullshit. i quit ON MY OWN without any nasty intervening circumstances. i walked away completely under my OWN power, not some higher power. i'm 39 and have calculated that the amount of $$$ i spent on drugs over the years would have bought me a house, clear. no regrets and no arrest record either...25 years and i've never even been pulled over. (knock wood!!!).
I appreciate the concern, but it's a little late. You should be able to deduce from my post that I have been taking them for awhile (You don't work up to 12-15 5mg pills a day overnight). And this is actually my third stint with opiates. First time about 7 years ago was accidental, back-to-back medical and dental issues had me on them for a couple months. Dentist didn't know I had been on pain meds for awhile already and it didn't occur to me since it was a different medication. They were similar enough though that when I went to stop after the dental work....woops. Three days of hell. Second time I got caught playing around...thought I would quit before it took hold...but damn if you can't just always tell yourself you'll stop after the next bottle. Again 3-4 days of post party purgatory. Now I am taking them for relief from pain from a yet to be diagnosed issue. Yes I enjoy the buzz as much as ever and think the relief from pain only escalates the euphoric feeling for me, and yes I know what is comin, and no I am not looking forward to it, and yes it will be hard and will suck, and yes I did it to myself. I pretty much made a choice that a week of pain and anguish in the near future for relief now was preferable to constant pain and anguish now to avoid getting hooked again. I had to pick my poison.
I remember when percs got me buzzed, now I will get acetaminophen poisening before even getting close to high. CWE will work but it's a pain in the ass. I suggest telling your doc that the APAP is bothering you. I did that and got bumbped up to perc 10/325 then OC 20's, then 40's, then 4-6 80's a day IV. Now, years later, I am on 100mg of methadone a day wishing I didn't chase the warm, comfy feeling non-stop.
