Women and men: Are Shemales Sexy?

Are they? In what way? Would you date one? Beyond being "safe", is there anything you wouldn't do?

Thanks!

 

I'm not sure what you mean "safe". Like "safe" as in I always use ziplock bags?

You can always bring up the question of being tested. Whether or not you trust their answer is up to you. Of course a shemale is sexy.

 

sometimes

 

Actually, I am a big fan of the ziplock bags, but not the ones where you have to line up the two sides. Those suck! They never work right, and take way too much of your time. I am a big fan of the ones with the little plastic tab, where you just pull them shut. Now those ziplock bags are a good invention.

But I'm not a big fan of "safe" sex. Condoms. As you implied, I prefer to use my judgement about the person I am with. I favor long relationships with lots of great sex.

 

Nice glasswork. I like the necklace with the swirly design. Very creative.

 

...and long walks on the beach?

Yes, those zips come in handy. Though I find it's easier for me with the double zips. The single zips are like trying to walk a tightrope. Double zips are two gang planks. Much easier pour moi.

Did you mean great sex to you is sex without condoms? There's something very intimate about skin to skin contact and lack of rubbers.

 

Yup. That's what I'm talking about. You got it right.


Was this thread about shemales? Well, whatever... who cares! It's all about life and the fascinating, exciting topic of sexuality.

So, what I am wondering is, if we can be attracted to male or female (making us hetero or homo), or both (bi), then should transsexuals be considered a third category? Maybe not, as they simply have characteristics of both. Then again, that is pretty unusual... Maybe it is a third category of person one can be attracted to.

 

If a girl as a beautiful face, perfect tits, perfect ass, hair and nails done, perfectly smooth long legs, you better lift up her skirt because her dick is probably bigger than yours.

No I would not date a shemale. But to each his or her own.

 

Are we talking about women who are really men? Men who dress up like women? Like Frank N. Furter?

Okay, he's an extreme example. But ...

There is something extremely raw about that kind of sexuality. (Has anyone ever seen Hedwig and the Angry Inch?) It is EXTREMELY appealing to me.
Then there are also the shemales who are quiet and sweet ... girl-next-door types. (I've been mistaken for one of those shemales a number of times. ) There is something ADMIRABLE about them, for their bravery ... a different sort of bravery, less in-your-face, but bravery nonetheless.

So yeah ... I think shemales are beautiful! Does that make me bisexual, since I still wouldn't really want to have sex with a woman unless she had a penis?

I think the real trouble is confining human sexuality to these three categories and nothing else.
It's folly to classify people: "You're either attracted to people of your own sex, to the opposite sex, or to both. There is no grey area."
Sorry ... there is ALWAYS grey area. Look at me. Look at you, Imagine. We're grey areas. And I'm sure we're not the only ones, either.

PS: I always thought sex without a rubber would be so much better, too ... but for me, it wasn't. I prefer the texture of a condom to that of a bare penis ... for me, the skin on the rest of the body is a much better receptor. That's why I always start out by touching my partner over the REST of his body, and like for him to touch me ... I think the sex organs are actually sort of unappealing in texture, not because I feel they're dirty, but because I just don't like 'em as well.

 

Yes, Hedwig and the Angry Inch. Really courageous piece. I hope there is more transexual cinema in the coming years, I love it! I was talking about women who are pretty, have breasts, but happen to have a penis. I don't mean men who just dress up as women.

Some such people are just waiting to get the money for an operation. Others feel they are fine the way they are. This is what I am, they are saying. An attractive woman with a penis.

So fascinating! Have you studied in "intersexed" people? Also interesting.

 

Okay. In my opinion, a beautiful woman who happens to have a penis is still a woman, and she is still beautiful.

I just bought a very fascinating book called The Male Body by Susan Bordo which is a sociological study into maleness in cross cultures (especially European, and especially American).

She makes a great point that for most women who were born men and trying to become women again, the main goal is getting rid of the penis. After the penis is gone, these ladies usually feel like females.
On the other hand, for a number of males who were born female and want to become male again, having a penis or not is less of an objective. They want to be seen and regarded as men (or, in some cases, as equal -- which one may say goes hand in hand) -- and having the correct anatomy between their legs is not important.

Go figure. Any ideas on that, while you're at it?

 

you tell me..

 

I'm a straight man.

For me, if I know a "woman" is really a man then I do not find him/her attractive, because I only like women. I would say most transsexuals are immediately offputting to me because they're manly, and clearly not women.

There are a few rare transsexuals who are convincing as women, and obviously I would be capable of finding them sexually attractive if I didn't know they were men. But as soon as I knew they're men, I would be no longer attracted to them. And I would feel quite repusled at the notion that I found another man sexy. For me, men are sexually repulsive.

To use an analogy, it would be like me talking dirty to a woman over the Internet, only to discover I was talking to my mum. It's just a notion I find deeply repulsive, sexually.

By the way, when I say transexuals "are men" I mean they are physically men. They may be legally women, but personally I don't think sex is defined by a person's mind. Sex is supposed to be a physical description. A man can be as femininie as you like and he's still a man. (And I don't think chopping off a man's penis makes him a woman. That is just ridiculous. That's a bit like saying if I tan my skin then I've changed race!)

Just my personal views on this.

 

Fascinating!!! I find the third one down, the one with black hair, to be the most interesting. I like her.

 

The male body! Thank you! I'm going to order that from library right now. Yeah, it's really interesting that a person could have a penis and yet still look and very much feel like a woman.

Suncatch, what I wonder is, what about getting off with a lover? How do they get off? Is it awkward sometimes? Do they sometimes not satisfy themselves but only satisfy the man, because introducing the penis would be awkward and make him feel gay?

Do they want to penetrate him, or be sucked off? That certainly doesn't make them men but it is interesting to me that there would be no denying:when the time came to get her off, you are dealing with genitals different from a woman's. Or you could look at it like a larger clitoris. What you think?

 

I think you're treading dangerous ground here. There are many in the lgbt community who have sought recognition for their differences in gender and sexuality for decades. There are also many others who reject these labels.

Why just a third category one can be attracted to? Who is this "one"? Another transexual? Or a straight person fetishizing them like a freakshow? I think THEY should deserve a third category if they so wish.

Read Neither Man Nor Woman by Serena Nanda.

I think also if you were really interested you would look up the lgbt community or gay/transexual/transgender community in your neighbourhood (hopefully there is one or a few) and get to know them. People are people when it comes down to it - not about where his or her penis goes during sex. It's an incredibly intimate subject and I find it uncomfortable that it's being discussed like a sausage on a chopping block by complete outsiders.

 

Hannah, your depiction of me and the other posters as a "complete outsider" and by implication yourself an insider, is presumptious, arrogant, and patently false. Furthermore, you have, and not for the first time, misinterpreted my words and created an argument via a position that, had you understood me, you would have found I agreed with in the first place.

"Look up people in the LGBT community. Hopefully there is one." ? Hannah, do you truly believe yourself to be the world traveler and sophisticate and the others you pontificate to here deserving of this kind of arrogance?

I have the kind of empathy and openness that causes people to open up to me; I think it is because they sense that I honor them and can relate to them. This may be why, in fact, I have many gay friends and (though only a few of these), friends who consider themselves transgender or something like it. I did not "look them up", or seek them out on the basis of these qualities.

When I said third category I referred to the popular notion of hetero and homo sexual. Please do not make a post pointing out to me that many people are bi sexual, that there are as many shades and colors as there are people on the planet. I know this. It can be useful, however, to acknowledge the ideas and classifications of hetero and homo, as a conceptual framework within which to discuss sexuality. As such, an addition to this would make, by my count, three. I was in no way suggesting we are limited to three, and I doubt you could, with any kind of inferential skill, legitimately get this from my post or the posts of mine you have read in the past.

Your statement "complete outsiders" is, in my view, pedantic and offensive to the other posters in this thread. Hannah, did you truly believe you were the only person on this forum with the intelligence, experience or empathy to understand these issues? You really ought to take a look at what you've written. You are clearly deceiving yourself. For one, Suncatcher22 has written some very cogent, well articulated posts in this forum. In addition, she has indicated that she believes herself to be something other than just a girl. That she is working out these kind of issues for her self. As such, characterizing her as an outsider (you used the plural form outsiders in your response to me, and she is a poster above yours) is rash and, in my opinion, fundamentally mistaken.


You perhaps didn't consider the irony here, but you have demonstrated an important point regarding gender: that is, that the ability to be patronizing, condescending and arrogant is not limited to men.

It is a position which you have no business taking with me. I do not come here .Hannah., to write a dissertation. If my posts are exuberant and sometimes boyish, this is due to my enthusiasm and good faith here at the forum, not to any lack of understanding or perception on the topic. Your failure to perceive this will speak to your own limitations, not mine.

Please allow me to request that you refrain from responding to me this way in the future. I do not think it is helpful.

Thank you very much for your time, Hannah, and I wish you the highest, deepest happiness and satisfaction in everything that you do.



Imagine11

 

She is that, isn't she?

 

Ask Eddie Murphy he likes she males!






Bustramp

 

Yeah, yeah.