Nations to fight against Israel at the end of time. So stated in the Bible.

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by campbell34, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Iranian president says Israel's days are numbered.

    We are living in the last days. And the Bible has been telling us the truth as to what will happen in the time of the end. Is anyone listening?
     
  2. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    No. No time for zealot drama.
     
  3. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Listen? Don't you know Campbell as soon as Christian fact enters the forum everyone automatically stops listening BUT they don't stop talking...
     
  4. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    when there is peace in israel , israel will be real . at the moment itsa european colony with nuclear weapons . trusting in god , there is peace . in god there is peace . who shall trust in god ? how to become real ? may israel lay down its nukes and lead the nations .... to become .
     
  5. seamonster66

    seamonster66 discount dracula

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    Israel has been under threat since it was formed!
     
  6. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    israel has been threatened from its beginning ? that's about normal for any people any nation . what shall be exceptional is peace , heaven on earth .
     
  7. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    Israel as a nation is one of the most brutal, over-armed, warlike nations on the planet. This is not anti-semetic to believe, as it has nothing to do with Jewish people as a whole.

    Whereas the world is constantly worrying over whether a nation like Iran, Syria, or North Korea will use nukes first(of course the US unecessarily used nukes first. Twice.), it is far more likely that Israel will use part of their massive stockpile than any other possibility.

    Part of the reason for the widespread hatred of America is because of our insane relationship with Israel, and our blanket support of every one of their policies - regardless of how brutal or evil.
     
  8. kayvan

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    Ahmadinejad (iran president) is not the Jew-hater, Holocaust denier, intent on wiping Israel off the map as Bush keeps describing him. Ahmadinejad pointed to the Iranian Jewish community, who are living peacefully within Iran as any other Iranian citizens. Iran is the home for the largest jewish community (25 thousands) in the Middle East outside Israel, who lived there for the last 3 thousand years since the rule of Cyrus the Great. Iranian government recognizes the Jews as a religious minority to be protected and represented by a PM, Maurice Mohtamed, in Iranian parliament. iranians make a distinction between Jews and Zionists.

    In the New York Times of June 11th, 2006 Juan Cole, a Middle East specialist at the University of Michigan, stated that “Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map, because no such idiom exists in Persian. He did say he hoped its regime i.e. a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse.” Ahmadinejad was not threatening Israel; rather he was calling for the end of Zionist occupation of the city of Jerusalem.

    the eight-year Iraq vs Iran desert war had given iranian army the longest experience in ground and desert warfare far exceeding any other army. Iranian arsenals include Iranian and Russian made submarines carrying their own mini submarines and submarine-to-ship missiles. Iranian naval forces had been updated with the latest military equipment and weaponry with its naval airborne forces including helicopters, minesweepers and the sophisticated fast Chinese anti-ship missiles with the speed of 220 miles per hour.Iran’s navy also has the largest hovercraft fleet in the world. On the land Iran has long range missiles (Shehab) and land-to-sea missiles (Kowsar) that can evade electronic jamming systems. Some of Iranian missiles are reported to be invisible to radar and can have multiple warheads with multiple payloads to hit multiple targets simultaneously. besides Russian warplanes Iran has manufactured its own warplanes with laser-guided missiles and whose capabilities are still unknown and could surprise any invading enemy.

    BTW attacking iran will disrupt oil traffic in the Persian Gulf. american military bases in the Gulf States will be targeted, and there is the possibility of also targeting oil wells.Venezuela, an Iranian ally, would stop the flow of its oil to the US. china might also enter the conflict to protect its own oil assets in Khuzestan province that the Iranian had armed heavily to protect its oil resources and to assure the supply of crude oil to its own allies.
     
  9. Shane99X

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    Belief, not fact...
     
  10. Zadria

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    As someone who is Half Jewish (Father's side) I have an issue with people shouting "Anti-Semetic" if someone should disagree with Jewish policies in Israel(or any Jewish topic that anyone has the right to disagree with anything they wish without being called ant anti-anything or bigoted).
    I have a Nelson Mandela quote in my aol profile and once in a Jewish chat Someone made the comment that Mr. Mandela was an Anti-Semite. Because he didn't back Israel!
    What? Maybe he was more interested in saving his own people and country!!!!!

    Sorry about the rant.
    I't's sickning. Sorry I had to say it.
     
  11. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Fufilled prophecy is.... Ez. 36:24
     
  12. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    Well maybe if the Arabs would stop attacking Israel they would not have to be war like. Yet the Bible tells us, that God brought the Jews back to their land so the other nations would attack them. God put the Jews back in Israel so He could reveal to the world who He is. The Arabs are only going to help God fulfill that task. The world forgot, that the God of the Bible gave that land to the Jews. And even though the Arabs control 98% of the land, and all the oil, they don't want the Jews to have the 2%.
    Yes America did use are nukes first. I'm sure it would of been far better if America invaded the nation of Japan like we did in Europe. So what if we lost 1 million Americans trying to secure Japan. At least we would not of used our nukes for a quick end of the war.
     
  13. Zadria

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    If you look at the issue from a non religious point of view many see it as wrong for Jewish immagrants coming in and forcing Arabs to smaller quarters and even refugee camps.
    I have the same issues with my own country of South Africa with whites taking over also with the angry treatment of the Native North Americans.
    You can't use a "Holy Text book" to decide what is right or wrong.
    Unless you have audio of "God" saying this land belongs to anyone. I don't see it as right to do so!
     
  14. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Look-you're always ranting and raving about what the Bible supposedly says (or the Protestant fundamentalist version of it). But, Jesus said that we're supposed to pray for our enemies and do good to those that persecute us. I guess that doesn't apply to the Israelis, does it? They're special, huh? They can just run roughshod over everybody just because you interpret the Bible to say that the Jews are pre-ordained to come back to Israel and do just that.

    You Protestant Bible-thumpers really don't have any sense of justice. Jesus said that the peacemakers will be called the children of God, but you never saw a war you didn't like, especially if it's prosecuted by the Americans or Israelis. Because "God" made those countries unique, special. Nonsense.

    And it's that attitude that makes people not want to listen to you, to turn a deaf ear to what you say, whether you realize it or not. You guys are just talking to yourselves. If you really want to make converts, why don't you try to show someone compassion, help people on these forums that have problems, that are suffering? Like Christ taught you to do? But, you know something? I don't think you know how to do that. I think all you know how to do is preach to people, and ignore the rest of what Christianity is really about. Typical, Protestant, "salvation by faith alone" mumbo-jumbo.
     
  15. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    The Biggest mistake the world is going to make is not taking the Bible seriously. God has prepared a trap for the Islamic Nations. They out number the Jews 100 to 1, and they are going to finally attack Israel in force. They are going to try and push the Jews into the sea and destroy the state of Israel. This is exactly what God wants them to do. God wants the Islamic nations to try and destroy Israel. You can read about Gods plan is in Ezekiel Chapters 37,38,38. It's all there, is anyone listening? If you think the Bible is just some Holy Book that has nothing to say about the time we live in. You could not be more wrong.
     
  16. Zadria

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    Here is the problem Campbell you are not a Jew. Your Jesus is not seen through the eyes of the Jews. The idea of jesus and his "virgin" birth is a slap in the face to Judaism.

    So that said.......
     
  17. campbell34

    campbell34 Banned

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    God gave the Jews the land. The world is telling God we don't care. We want the land for ourselves. Apperently, you don't care what God wants, do you. This has nothing to do about my attitude, it has everything to do with Gods plan, which you donot understand. I'm looking at the whole Bible, you are not. You are not looking at the prophecies, and your ignoring Gods bigger plan, and trying to fit in your own personal view without considering what the Bible has already stated. Ezekiel chapters 37,38,39. It's all there, is anyone listening?
     
  18. campbell34

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    Jesus is going to bail out the Jews in Israel. Read Zec. Chapter 12.
     
  19. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    The message of the Gospel isn't about a piece of friggin' land. It's about love (even of your enemies), and mercy and forgiveness. You're the one that's not listening!
     
  20. Shane99X

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    They never do, too caught up in chapter and verse to pay any attention to the spirit.

    pity them, they will be so confused when god tells them that he knew them not...
     
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