Some first timer thoughts

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Jack00, Dec 6, 2006.

  1. Jack00

    Jack00 Member

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    Hi everyone,
    first of all thanks for all the great help you give to everyone here!

    For some reason I ended up discovering salvia a few months ago. One day I was browsing a forum when salvia suddenly popped up, and it definitely made me curious.

    Why curious? Well, first of all because I've been planning to do a trip since the age of 16, am now in late 20's. At age 16 I discovered the spiritual world, but never did anything but weed and some speed + E. Shortly after I quit all of it because I wanted a clean mind. At that time I realized that spiritual experiences come though a clean mind. I was under the influence that any mind altering substances would just cloud your mind, not open it up. Today I'm not so sure anymore. I was practicing meditation daily for 7 years, but alas.. nothing .. no realization of anything but an empty mind, and perhaps loss of my soul. After all, when I smoked weed I had some introspection and probably some realizations, but with meditation no such thing happened. I might be an impatient soul, but 7 years of meditation, around 2 hours a day = 5110 hours of meditation. Substantial! So this leads me back to lady salvia. I dropped out of meditation a few years back because I felt it lead me nowhere, but my spiritual yearning is as strong as ever. My dream and hope is that the sage plant will give me what I'm looking for. I know this is a long text, but I want you to understand that I'm looking for that one in a lifetime experience which will give me a direction in life, not just spare-time fun. I am hoping the salvia will give me the break through to chose how to live my life and realize what lies behind everything. This might seem much to ask from one simple plant, but I have my wishes. Who knows, maybe this plant will lead me back to meditation, or lead me somewhere else. I don't care, but I want to know! ;)

    So back to my first experience with salvia. Last night I smoked a bong of pot and decided to try some salvia. I don't know why, but it sorta felt right. Probably stupid since I live in my parents house as a temporary solution before I find my own place. Anyhow, I had made a makeshift bong out of a half liter coke bottle. At the bottle neck I added aluminum foil and made a grove for the salvia and burnt two holes in the bottle. One at the bottom to suck from and another hole close to the neck which I could release with my finger to inhale the full contents of the bottle. I did one hit and held it for about 30 seconds. I immediately felt a bit weird. I sorta saw some shadows and my room had a kind of wavy feeling of it. I waited a few minutes but nothing more happened. I decided to do a second hit. I did the hit and realized that something is gonna happen soon. I quickly managed to turn on some trance music on my computer and just in time I laid down on my bed. I closed my eyes and tried to relax. Then it hit me right on. My heart started to race like crazy and amazing fractals were floating in my mind. At some point my heart turned into another being of some kind and I felt that we were to separate. At that point I awoke and realized that it was part of the trip. I opened my eyes and everything seemed normal again. Actually that part scared me a bit and I was happy to be awake again. I tried to smoke a third hit to continue the trip but nothing more happened so I went to eat some chocolate :D

    This experience made me realize a few things. First of all that I'm not nearly as ready for a big trip as I thought before. I always thought that I could handle a huge trip, but since such a small trip seemed a bit overwhelming and scary I have realized that preparation is what really counts. And not just that, but also experience. Thus, next time I'm not gonna increase my dose but do it exactly as this time. It's better to be prepared when you enter the unknown than just jump into something and end up in the ER having an anxiety attack!
    Secondly, I've realized the potential of this plant. I understand that it's really powerful and not for everyone out there. Me being a very calm, stable, confident person with self disipline almost got scared from a minor trip. I wonder how someone without a clue would end up.

    So in the end a few questions. I smoked a 5x standardized extract and added around a pinch to the bong for each of the three hits from a 1g sachet. This morning I realized that I had smoked half a gram all together, which most of you guys say is alot? My guess is that my next trip will be stronger with a smaller dose, because I think I did some minor mistakes when I lit the bong. Also I will make a better bong for the next trip. What do you guys think?

    And a second question. I have no friends who are into this kind of things so I'm probably gonna do my next trip alone as well. I want to ask you what the best way to prepare for an alone trip would be? My thought is that I sit down to do a meditation to calm my mind, then, sitting in the lotus position with my legs interlocked I smoke a hit and wait for the trip. In this way I am not able to move around and injure myself, and I will be in a stable position to receive whatever happens in the trip. Is this a good idea? And what else should I think of?

    thanks!
     
  2. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    i really would hate to be tripping in the lotus position. i meditate too, and salvia and meditation are a kind of "so opposite it's almost exactly the same" deal. if you really think that's how you'll feel most comfortable, try it, but i'd imagine it could really distract you. you will probably feel like you are being dragged down by some incredibly strong force, and if you toppled over in the lotus position... heh... yeah. :D

    i like to make a huge pile of pillows and blankets and lay in it. but make sure it's not bumpy, uneven, or in ANY way uncomfortable, especially for your head, neck, shoulders, and feet, which will be annoying as hell if anything is bothering them. you might want to turn off the light, you might not... if the light is on, obviously don't be near anything dangerous, but with salvia, "dangerous" is a very broad concept. anything big that could dominate and tower over you or suck you in might be scary. whatever though, an experience is an experience, and with all the advice i could possibly give, you'll still probably experience some things that scare you, so really, as long as you are comfortable you'll learn from your own mistakes that you could never have predicted.

    it sounds like salvia is absolutely perfect for you and you are perfect for her.
    "I am hoping the salvia will give me the break through to chose how to live my life and realize what lies behind everything."
    salvia has shown me how complex and perfect the Isness of everything that is is :D. it has reminded me that i am free, and the universe is full of magic that never runs out. that everything has meaning, all you have to do is see it. everything has a soul. everything is important and beautiful. there are infinite possibilities, every single second in this life is an opportunity to express and experience as much love and happiness as you can imagine. i can tell you those things, and you can agree with them, or not. but it's hard to truly experience them without the level of faith and clarity and appreciation that salvia can give you.
     
  3. Jack00

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    Hi there :)
    Thanks for your message! You gave me some good things to think about. And yeah, you were absolutely right about the lotus position. I tried it, and somehow I blacked out after inhaling. The next thing I can remember is that I really wanted to get up and walk around and found it impossible due to my leg position ;) Wouldn't try it again. Cushions sounds like a good idea!

    I'm starting to wonder if I'm too sensitive. I've smoked 5x 3 times now and I can only remember the first trip. I must add that all together I smoked almost an entire gram. I guess I should take less next time!

    Thanks for the tips though :)
     
  4. redgreenvines

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    if you black out use less.
    expect nothng from salvia
    but your thousand hours of meditation should give you an appreciation of posture and attitude that can be priceless.
    meaningless but priceless IYKWIM.
    realization is possible if you inclined towards it.
    see the mind as a series of mental images
     
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