would doing LSD be wise for ME?? (READ)

so laast night i was pretty blazed and i had a nightmare if you will, my freind dunked the cookies in acid and i ate them and was looking for a drug (valum xanax ) to kill the trip but it didnt work and i woke up in shock, mind you this was just a dream, i have no expereince with any other drugs besides weed but lsd is very appealing to me and im curious, and i dont think i could control myself if i had a bad trip, any advice?

 

dont trip

 

If you go into a trip thinking you won't be able to handle it, chances are you will be right. Start off with a small dose to feel it out first. Like one or two hits of L or maybe 2g of mushies. Once you get a feel for it you can move in with more confidence and take on the world.

 

very few people benefit from psychedelics, even if they CAN handle them for the most part, and what benefit there is is generally enigmatic, hard to place, and often of little actual importance. psychedelics in certain ways can be wonderful tools, but they can also do some damage that is played down quite a bit among the drug community.

theres something to be said for the idea that its all in your head, but then again even going into it confidently, and thinking you can handle it, is by NO means a garauntee. and as i've said, even smaller is the likeliness that you will not only have a pleasant trip, but a beneficial trip as well.

the experience is intense enough, pleasurable enough (if you take to it well), and bizarre enough to almost "trick" you into thinking its spiritual or beneficial, even if you take away nothing of any actual value.

i'm not going to say you aren't missing much, because in reality it DOES seem to open up a whole new world......

but look at the people that have actually taken a lot of these drugs. and i mean a LOT of these drugs - people that have tripped a hundred or more times, at LEAST.

very few of them are all there, those that are aren't likely to still use them frequently, and few will be able to honestly say they benefitted in any substantial amount from taking psychedelics. fewer still will be able to tell you HOW they benefitted.

considering your premonitions, your low confidence, and your apparent uneasiness with the idea of tripping, i'd say, at the risk of being called an elitist, psychedelics probably simply arent for you. small doses might be ok for you, and might be fun - but small doses dont produce significant experiences, and are thus incapable of producing life changing spiritual or psychologically novel experiences.....

you COULD try like a half eighth of mushrooms, and if you did you'd most likely feel good without tripping, and just waste your money on what youre treating as just another toy.


i say stay away from psychedelics. they aren't something you ease into....you take to them well or you dont, simple as that. most people dont benefit....





but then again, this is just my personal, deluded opinion. you must take everything i've said with a grain of salt. i certainly can't decide anything for you.

 

Nesta you are absolutely right. I hope I didn't give the impression that my advice would be a guarantee, because there most certainly is no guarantee on how one may handle it.

 

Trip, if it interests you ... Even if you freak out , well you'll get over it , and do it again or not.

 

Its all about leting go and accepting the trip, if you fight it it makes it worse.

I woulnt trip if I'm nervoius at all though, better to save the stuff for an easy day when every thing is peachy. Then the drugs amplify that felling 1000x times.

 

I always felt more comfortable with the internal psychedelic effects of grass (THC), than LSD. Reefer is more consistantly euphoric and easier to handle. LSD is much less "comfortable", but then, it is supposed to be. LSD is more powerful, in a different psychedelic direction and more "spiritually educating". It has more sharp contrasts than pot, more "ups" and "downs" (like a roller coaster).

Intense pot-trips can help one prepare for an LSD trip, but LSD is still very different and usually much more powerful. LSD is a very powerful emotional and mental amplifier, so be in a good mental framework, hopefully somewaht confident and relaxed, or trouble can occur. Fears and doubts will just be amplified!

Don't expect a "magic pill" to bring you out of a bad trip, although "downers" (i.e. sleeping pills,alcphol) may help make it more controllable, as that may just bring panic reaction, which of course, will be amplified by the acid. A good, experienced "trip guide" would be helpful.

LSD is not a "control freak" experience, it is simply GO WITH THE FLOW, as long as it doesn't result in personal injury and/or death. You must quickly adapt to the experiences given and hopefully LEARN from them.

Tripping is a personal decision and you must decide that by yourself and when you're ready for it (if ever).

Happy trails to you!

 

I know you said it was just your opinion, but I was just wondering how you formed that view? From the research I've been doing casually over the last year or two I just see an overwhelming positive response to lsd (except for cases where it was used in a negative environment or given to people with existing emotional problems, of which there were many yes, and we should learn from this.)
I would suggest the fact the benefits are considered enigmatic or hard to place have a lot more to do with our lack of scientific language to describe/measure the actual effects, and less to do with the effects not actually existing at all.

I don't think the drug community overly downplays the dangers of it, that's clear even on this board, but these are the exact same people you say do not consider the lsd experience a benefit, which is also contrary to what most describe on this forum.

I think general populations opinion and media downplay the positive sides of LSD to a far greater scale than any 'drug community' with actual experience ever downplay the dangers.

To the original poster, do not base your explorations into this world on a dream or nightmare you had - but don't just jump in either. Research, read, find out if the experience sounds like something you want to try, then make sure your experiment with this powerful stuff is educated, thought out and as safe and rewarding as you can make it, based on what you know.

There are dangers, that is obvious to anyone with a brain, but they are also for the most part preventable or at least manageable, so use intelligently.

If you are not confident you have not approached this with thought, then you are taking a gamble on whether the experience will be good or bad for you, and the risk you are taking is your own.

 

Nesta is 100% right.

 

Nesta is absolutlely right. but, i believe taht psychedelics can be a positive or at least valuble experience to every person that takes them. the thing taht i have found is that they loose their meaning over time. as we get used to the effects and are able to handle it in high energy situations like concerts etc., the trips become intense and bizzare but lose that personal insight that one might experience with a small group of friends. i remember when i began taking them, it was such a crazy experience, and in a way i gained the most from acid from freaking out on it. When i would wig out, i would learn more about my own mind than i ever could in a psych class. and in a way, it was that intensity, at the edge of losing it, that drew me back and now it has lost its sparkle in a way. i take a dose and just think, oh, back in this place. its def. a different world, but a familiar one - one i feel with me at all times.

but i think it can be said that the first time you take psychedelics, it is without a doubt a valuable experience because it forcibly blows away the barriers of our perception. if you haven't eaten a psych, you are missing a large part of the human experience, because it is the only method that people from the west have of attaining such an expanded awareness.

how a person treats that experience determines weather it has any benefit, and as Nesta said, usually it doesn't. The experience happens, and then the person is thrown right back into the world of distractions. some ignore it, some embrace it. but many, like me, find they are unable to just change themselves because of one 8 hour trip, and so they repeat the experience over and over, and then the drug just becomes another distraction - it becomes exactly taht which the LSD experience transcends. Even if every trip has points of liberation and bliss, there is rarely anything that can be carried forward.

psychedelics are drugs, very powerful drugs. i prefer now to use them as a way to intensify a new experience (a good show, nature), and as a means for breaking out of patterns and enhancing my creativity in music.

but actually i can name a benefit acid has given me recently. yesterday, i took a dose in the morning, on my own. i'd been taking opiates everyday for a week. i knew it was a bad road to go down, but couldn't draw myself away from it. i took some L yesterday, and encountered another friend who was fiending, asking me to get him some morphine. well, in effect, i freaked out. but it was a planned freak out, a controlled spiral that really made the reality of opiate addiction hit home. it hit hard enough that i don't wanna take that shit any more.

LSD isn't good or bad its all waht you make of it. it is what it is.

 

^ yeah i've done lots of research on the value of psychedelics in mental health. one of the most promising areas involves drug addiction: the native and south americans have been successfully treating alcoholism and other addictive behaviors for thousands of years thanks to psychoactive/psychedelic preparations.... the most obvious result of the psychedelic state is the ability to see oneself on a destructive path. a light bulb goes off and *voila* people sober up. there have been many cases of alcoholics who, after only one or two doses of LSD, have become completely abstinent and continued such abstinence their entire lives (e.g. 40+ years!)...

 

one of the reasons I started on acid was all these stories about positive experiences, spiritual awakenings, therapeutic breakthroughs, etc. I wanted those experiences too! I quickly learned it's all about getting high. "It's only teenage wasteland." and there I wasted too, though at times I'd trip and go looking for my spiritual awakening or therapeutic breakthough. ...eventually I found both but not while I was doing acid.

 

Psychedelics are not posotive to every person that takes them, thats were leary fucked up and Part of the reason ilegalzation of lsd came about so fast. I watched some kid who thought he was a badass eat an eigth of some crazy mushrooms and flip out to this day he isnt the same and now hes a starit edge evangelicle christian who thinks the rapture is coming and there is going to be a huge rise in christ. This kid is so weird you cant even make conversation with him. I would defintaly say he owes it to Psychedelics

 

Basically all negative effects caused by LSD, are caused by some kind of fear.

 

Or anxiety.

 

Anxiety is a type or degree of fear I believe.

 

I loved this topic, many wise LSD users have given thought into the original posters question.

If you question using a drug, do not do it. I cannot stress that enough. If you want to fuck yourself over then do it, but there is always time. Wait until you are mentally prepared for anything to happen.

 

Sorry to say, but some people shouldn't trip on LSD. Maybe a very low dose of magic mushrooms (1.5-2.5g ((not a visual trip)) ) if you would like to experience a phycadelic. Also, maybe salvia divinorum extract would work nicely as well (short trip, usually laughing and experiencing a nice visual trip). Take care!