I noticed there are loads of fairly young people on here, 14-17 type of age. I remember when I was that age I was mad into Hendrix, The Doors and all the rest, had long hair and all. I used to read stuff on buddhism and Taoism. Always planned on going to Nepal and Tibet and never intended having a boring life, then one morning you wake up you're 21 (I know I could be 40, it could be worse) you have short hair a boring 9-5 job in the bank where you could end up until you're 60 and you wonder where it all went wrong!!!! I mean I still love all my music and still smoke on. I've been trying to pin-point where I sold out and became a bitch to the corporate world, think it was after I dropped out of college and had loads of shitty jobs, me mam just kept wrecking my head until I got a "proper" job. I intend to rectify the problem by packing in the job after christmas and fucking off travelling.....but a message to all the younger board members, don't sell out, it's a shit way to live, sitting in a desk listening to the same boring people go on about the house they bought with their partner and the mortgage they got, the new coffee table they are getting and colour schemes for the kitchen. 9-5 jobs are full of people like this who are happy to live their sad little lives until they die. The you get people who realise it's shit and realise they sold out but do nothing about it and go with the flow, apart from maybe a bit of decent partying and enjoying life a bit at the weekends. But I can't hack that, I'm sick of living for the weekend there has to be more to life than that and I intend to find out.....................................end rant!
this is why i plan to try and survive as a starving artist. my dad and his partner are doing that, and it's a really simple and scary way of living, but they're happier and have a lot more self respect than most of the sell outs i know. though it is nice to have money in the bank and security, who cares about that if you hate your life?
i plan to go to college than be my own boss skatin and ridin everyday making skate films lets hope it works out
it was when u cut ur hair. take metallica for example. they used to be some bad ass mother fuckers. then they cut their hair, put on suits and started suing people left and right for listening to their music.assholes.
Lets see, as a "sell-out". where did I go wrong. Graduated from University in 1982 and within a year was dad - sell-out then, no. I was working with my hands, restoring old buildings using traditional methods, with a mattress in the back of the Ford Transit, roadying for bands and in love with this dead cute hippie chick. Our oldest son grew up in pubs listening to bands, or going to horse fairs and festivals for the first couple of years. We hung around with the same old Pot-heads. Then life began to move on. My father had a serious accident and my uncle died - two of the major sources of my work. The housing we could get was unfit for human habitation. The Transit had to go. Other kids our age starting having famillies and settling for the 9-5. The rich kid hippies went to mummy and daddy for enough money to set up that record/jewellery/ethnic goods/health shop that meant they could holiday abroad and send their kids to private school. A few went to jail, and others did the live fast, die young routine. By 25 it was us, the rich pseudo hippies, and the ones you could rely on to let you down because they were too stoned all the time and it was beginning to take it's toll. And the younger kids - well they loved to come round and listen to Hendrix & The Doors, cadge a lift to a festival and talk endlessly about joining a commune and travelling, rejecting the system. As the first poster says, you see them all over these forum's. And then someone says, hey I've got some land, come and join me to build a community and harmony, and suddenly the excuses start popping up like Mum and Dad won't let me, no money to travel, there's an "R" in the month, etc, etc. So I settled at 25 for an indoors job that meant I didn't have to work outside in a Norfolk Winter. (If you look closely at the map you'll see that the artic circle suddenly dips down the North Sea to encircle Norfolk, UK before going back up to the northern tip of Norway!). It was only going to be for six months, but then it meant we actually move into a house with the usual amenties, roof, floors, water that ran through pipes,etc and we could register with a doctor when our kid was ill, rather than turn up at a surgery and just hope they'd see us if we produced our NHS cards. So its difficult. If you're going to take on the system you need either mental & physical strength, or a family that will bank-roll you. We still do the fairs and see plenty of kaftan wearing\tiedyed t-shirts\indian dresses 40 & 50 somethings, and actually they can be some of the most boring people I know - the pseudo hippy health food shop owners or individuals with whom every sentence is a ten minute odyssey of pauses and repetitions. And then there are the other forty somethings who've now got grown up children and are going back to what they originally love by giving uo the rat-race. The don't dress hippy but they think hippy and are actually doing something about increasing the amount of love in the world. And a lot of us still think in our heads that we are 18. So amend the slogan - don't trust who thinks in their head that they are over 30!!
I think stagnation is the true enemy here. I have a bit of a "problem" where i cannot look into the future more than a few years ahead. I've never viewed any job I've had as permanant, its always something to tide me over till I can get to that mystical somewhere else. I'm afraid of routine, its true.
I am probably what you described as one of those people who talk about their new coffee table except I don't feel like I sold out, maybe a bit worn out. I got married at 22. In fact I just celebrated my 9 year Anniversary on Thursday. I had my first son at 25 and my second son at 26. I'm done having children now I am just trying to figure out how to raise them. I sometimes wish I had lived a lil' more before having children. I think the fact that I am home 24/7 for the past 5 1/2 years bothers me at times but this is what I chose to do. I chose to be the one raising my children. Sometimes I get jeolous. I want to go out and party, experience the world, get up and go. When I hear Mother's and Father's talk about how their children are staying over this ones's house or Grandma and Grandpa have them for the weekend I cringe a lil' inside. Then I look at my accomplishments with my children and how good they are and I know it is because of me and my husband. That helps get through some of the jealousy but I still want a break. My only suggestion for you when you are feeling like you sold out is look at the fact that your single and if you want to go out, you can. If you want to take a shower without anyone knocking on the door who is younger than 5 years old, you can. If you want to take a nap on a Saturday afternoon or sleep in without being woken up by cartoons and 50 questions you can. Does any of this make you feel better?
Peanuts how come you don't go out? Even to dinner/movie/dancing, anything that interests you? Or do you? I don't know, it just sounds like from what you said that you're home every day with the kids
I am home every single day and night with the children. 24/7. Right now I have one in preschool for 2 1/2 hours in the morning 3 days a week and the other is in afternoon Kindergarten for 3 hours 5 days a week. I always have a child with me. My husband doesn't go out either other than going to work 5 days a week from 7:00 am till 4:30 pm. He comes home every single night to be with me and the boys. I could be complaining that he is out drinking all the time and never home. I would like to go out but I would like to go out with my husband. I enjoy his company. We do have babysitters but right now they are back in school and have cheerleading and other things going on so they are not available. I only trust them so I will have to be patient till their schedules free up some. I do not like to go out without my husband. I have a case of social anxiety. I am like a prisioner in myself at times however once in a blue moon I will have a day shopping trip with my Mom. Those are always wonderful because when I come home I feel like a different person.
Im 14, have long hair, and I'm helplessly addicted to The Doors. Reading all of you stories, it really doesnt seem like any of you have really sold out, some of you have kids which is great. hell i wouldnt be here if everyone decided not to have kids. and who cares if you work at some bank, grow out your hair and be your own man, its not like ur working 24/7. The only thing that makes you a sell out is when you forfeit who you are in order to please other people or to maintain a social image. Good luck
You can sell your soul for a dollar but it'll cost you everything you have to buy it back (kind of a rip off huh?)
lol maybe it is a bit, I probably posted the original post when I was suffering from the blues!! I still don't like me 9-5 number but I suppose it's a case of make the best of the time you have when you are not working especially the weekends which I normally spend getting shit faced drunk and then it makes the 9-5 routine even worse. Still I'm off travelling in January for a year which I can't wait for and I don't intend to cut my hair or shave for the year! Viva la Long hair!
I'll tell you one thing, you talk alot of sense for a 14 yr old, there are people twice your afe who couldn't have put it that well!
I thought the same exact thing. I even gave him a rep point saying so because I thought he spoke very intelligently for a 14 year old.