So I converted to atheism

I am almost done with the god delusion. Decided to ditch the paganism. I'm a bright now.

 

you can't convert to atheism. Atheism is not a religion.

 

good boy lol, but i dont think believing in just a god is stupid, but believing in religion and there gods is pure stupidity.

 

Exactly.. it struck me as odd

 

it's just as much a sytem of distraction from reality as religion is. of course you can convert from one system to another. just don't make the mistake of thinking that any system of concepts will ever allow you to truly see what's right in front of you. they're just concepts.

 

hardly. Atheism is a conclusion, not a belief. Therefore, it is hardly a "system of distraction"--unless of course, you allow it to be.

And it's really not a system at all. "There is no god." How is that a "system?"

"they're just concepts" however: some are based on empirical evidence (or some call it "science") and other concepts are based on fear, answering the unknown with more unknown (the definition of stupidity), and some really good made up stories upon which people base their entire definition and conception of life---how silly!

 

doesn't 'there is no god' have zero meaning except to the godly ? and it just makes them feel bad .

 

Oh take it easy on the guy...It's hard to ditch the religious "lingo" after years of participating in religion.

Just remember that a party is not a "fellowship" - lol (...ok, you might only get that if you've been really involved with the church...)

 

You all will know the truth someday...its sad it really is.

 

The truth is sad?

 

I've read the beginning of the God Delusion. Doesn't look convincing to me, and Richard Dawkins in general I find annoying. But I am looking forward to reading the rest of it, out of curiousity, as soon as it gets off the library hold shelf!

 

if that wasn't easy, I don't know what is.

 

You don't "convert" to atheism, dumbshit.

 

The older I get and more I research history and religion, I realize the bible and religion are FULL OF SHIT!

 

There are some things in all religions that sound odd to us, becasue the religions are only perfect for the ones who thought them up.

However there are some unerversal things we can all relate to, they dont prove any gods existance but show us how to live happier and more caring lifes.

If public worships alows people to feal this, why bash them?

What works for some wont work for all, but in the end every one searching in or for there soul has the same goal and thats peace, compashion and love.

 

that's not what the religions teach. Christianity, for example, teaches that it is the word of god, and that god is perfect. Therefore, so is "his" teachings...

I, for one, didn't bash anyone, I bash this imaginary concept of god, if that offends any celestial being, then that's their own bullshit they need to deal with.

if that were true, why are people that follow religion (i.e., your stated goals) responsible for most of the major wars/death/destruction of others throughout time and memorial?

Never heard of an atheist flying an airplane into a building or blowing themselves up in a crowded marketplace in the name of thier god.

peace? hardly.
compashion [sic]? certainly not.
love? if that's your idea of love.

 

Religion has only caused large-scale trauma when it has MIXED WITH POLITICS. The Catholic church pretty much ruled the world during the Dark ages and the Crusades. Everyone bowed down in fear of this political/religious entity. If it hadn't been allowed the political power, it never would have had the power it did.

Do you honestly believe science is exempt from evil and corruption? What about vivisection? Darwin's theory being used to justify rascism? Human experimentation by the Nazis? You could say that this is faulty science, but I could also say that violent religion is faulty religion. The only reason science doesn't have the long corruptive history of religion is because modern science hasn't been around as long.

Today, killing can and is justified by science rather than religion--In the US, pleading "Innocent by reason of religion" is not a legal plea option. But, "Innocent by reason of insanity" is. I'm not saying legitimate mental illnesses don't exist, I'm just pointing out that science is not necessarily an angel either.

People will use any excuse considered most acceptible in their culture to excuse anything.

 

religion IS politics. It is in the most basic sense of the word a "political" creation for people to as you put it "bow down in fear".

"if it hadn't been allowed"..what on earth does that mean??? WHO ALLOWED IT??? No on allowed it, they church just assumed power due to their desire to conquer the world. Why? To gain the membership of EVERY CITIZEN on earth (was their goal, anyway). Politics. Religion is politics masked by god. Until you understand the two go hand in hand, you won't understand how atheism differs.
Now, if you're talking about basic human psychology, then yes, atheism falls victim to that as well, no one is immune from psychology. And atheists do evil things too. However, not in the name of atheism.

only because no one can take that seriously. If peope could plea "god" made me do it, they are obviously going to be looked at as insane.

<<"Innocent by reason of religion" is not a legal plea option.>> I don't understand what this has to do with the price of tea in china.


<<science is not necessarily an angel either.>>

how delicious is the irony in that?

and now you know how god was born.

 

this is a difficult thing to discuss. there are so many different views on what god is, or isn't, that when we talk about it's existance we could be talking about completely different things. i don't agree with the christian view of god, which seems much closer the mind of man than anything divine, but there is an overwhelming sense of something much deeper than myself, something that i am a part of but can't see entirely. i think that if i tried to see this thing in a logical sense, through analysis, i would find nothing. but that is a beginning, not an end. there are ways of understanding without the use of logic. if i was only logical, i would be atheist, but logic is limited.

 

also, convincing yourself logically that there is no god, no magic-and all that that entails about your existance-is a sytem of thought.