They blew it all to hell!

actually I think it was martians........

 

:saucer: :1eye: :alien: :ears:

 

According to some of the real theories, that's not necessarily far off.

 

Oh there is a way.....
Jet fuel burns at 825 degrees C.
Steel melts at 1525 degrees C. HOWEVER, steel looses a lot of its strength at 648 degrees C.

This fuel that was ignited had enough heat energy to weaken the supports sufficiently to cause them to give way from the weight from above it.

The reason the buildings fell so fast is because the supports are only made to withstand the static weight of whats above it. And after the load of top stories fell, the whole building is going down. This is physics. Objects accelerate at 10m/s^2. So once this top block fell on to the floor below it, it easily broke the steel supports and so on.


Oh and to the original poster, these steel rods flying out were helped along by the fact that lots of air was forced out of the buliding as it collapsed. This is effectivly how a air compresser works, compress enough air, and it will come rushing out. along with anything else.

 

Small yield hydrogen bombs makes more sense to me. Blown all to hell indeed. Supposedly they perform these acts in such an obvious manner so that it would seem too ridiculous to even conceive that it occurred in an planned manner to most of the thinking population. So the idea even though apparently obvious is dismissed immediately, even subconsciously, because you are too intelligent and observant to be fooled in such an obvious manner. Sort of like magicians and illusionists. The trick you by doing it right before your eyes, making you think that it would be impossible to trick you in that exact manner.

Pure evil I tells ya.

 

"Small yield hydrogen bombs" ?? Ain't no such thing.

 

Well if there is, I want one to committ suicide with.....:anger: :behead: :boat:

 

So actually his only real qualification is that he agrees with you. Maybe you think the 9/11 commission should have been made up of professors of theology instead of engineers?

Really? Name a dozen structural engineers in the organisation.

So smearing means you can't argue against evidence? "You talk like you know everything when you in fact know nothing. Thanks for the waste of bandwidth. You are very uninformed and have no facts, so thank you for nothing." Those are Rat quotes. One rule for you, one rule for everybody else I guess.

I think their fragile belief system is called actual engineering expertise, and they didn't like quacks embarassing their school by catering to conspiracy theory cults.

So first you say fire has never brought down a steel structure building, and now you are saying that steel girders buckling from the heat of a fire is "common". Keep in mind this factory hadn't been hit by a 757 and wasn't supporting 20 stories and massive weight on its roof, and you can see why your attempt to laugh this off falls flat.

I'm going to take the word of numerous firefighters whose eyewitness testimony said that the building was heavily damaged and looked like it could collapse over your claims pulled from thin air.

Apparently lots of engineers and demolitions experts can watch the collapse and say it wasn't a controlled demolition, and that's why the 911 truth movement has to rely on philosophy professors at community colleges for membership.

 

I was referring to this post: http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204623

 

I was thinking that the Hiroshima bomb is tiny by current standards. If the twin towers were taken down by a bomb, it was smaller than the Hiroshima device, because it didn't leave a city sized hole behind. My understanding of the physics of nuclear bombs is that any H-bomb needs to be more powerful than Fat Boy. I am aware that my knowlege is no where near the state of the art.

The referance you gave says that small fusion devices, suitable for demolition work, have been developed. The advantages of a teenie tiny itsy bitsy fusion device over dynamite was not made clear. (i.e. why develop the tiny nuke in the first place, or was it a special project for 911?)

I had not realized that the 911 consipiricy theories had developed a network of interlocking nut theories.

I leave with this thought about conspiracy theories in general - If they have the secret devices, the secret operatives and the will to maintain silence after the event, opposing them is futile. But I can see where fereting out their deepest secrets would be an amusing hobby.

Have fun. (Does aluminum foil work as well as tin?)

 

Good post pepik

 

whole thing at : Popular Mechanics

 

That wasn't caused by bombs. Its was caused by the buildings falling. We know you are a Russian-Iranian agent.

 

What really happened with the jet fuel.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=13&articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000

http://tinyurl.com/p25rc

 

two little fleas were jumping out, one said good riddance one said I'm out. Seems like you little biters are in a battle for clout, one for the north the other for the south. Either way what do you think the impact of the words you say will be, the answer is not a gawddamn whiff of damage gee. One little guy scared to see the other little flea convinced that the bad guy is me. Shall the people remain toothless or will the biters draw blood? This time I destroy the globe with fire fuck a flood. Information dissemination is like mastubation for recreation, you can beat away but you still ain't gettin no pussy. If you want real action you got to hit the skins, i.e. make targets fall down(pay for their sins) You want impact? pick a target, knock it down, try to survive, if you are captured then spit your diatribe. People listen to men of action even when they dissagree in principality entirely, the marketing value of violent citizens is about to go exponential. Now cypher that shit like two fleas on the differential.

 

I'm beggining to think that these 911 conpiracy theorists are held prisoner somewhere in a secret Iranian jail and forced to write anti-western propaganda all day on the internet. :nopity:


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well thats coz u are one of da okes whose supporting da big guys at the top, right? so obviously u dont want people to think for themselves, put evidence together and come up with their own freaking, though probably more accurate truths! or am i wrong? whats your agenda Free Mason?? if u against free-thinkers why u even on this thread, neaver mind this entite forum? or u just here to spin some more evil propaganda for your evil buddies:H he, he, i definately think so...

 

This is clearly the worst research I've seen done on any conspiracy theory its just a bunch of photo's that someone drew some arrows on and wrote a few words on with no Expert qualifications, in, engineering, ballistics, explosives, fuel combustion, aerodynamics, physics, and 10 or 20 other disciplines necessary to make such judgements.
I would expect that at least a multidisciplined team of scientists would be required to refute or testify to each claim made in the photo's

Someone with an opinion and photoshop dont really count unless they also are the spokesperson for a whole heap of scientists who made a deep study of the evidence - usually such bodies would have serious I would like to see the actual qualifications and a link to the persons academy or office so I could research the background of that person or peoples career

 

Um, ok. So you take facts and PIECES of evidence that DON'T add up and you come up with a theory that the US Gov't is responsible for 9/11?

Can you show your work on this? I'd like to know which PIECES of evidence you chose to look at and how you were able to add them up to equal US involvment when you say that they don't add up.

Without taking pieces of evidence and instead looking at the whole evidence, I see that it adds up to a bunch of people that just don't like the US. And guess what, since you're an American, they don't like you either. This world is not a warm and fuzzy place. Sometime people just don't like other people for reasons we'll never understand.